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Misinformation campaigns increasingly target the cavity-fighting mineral, prompting communities to reverse mandates. Dentists are enraged. Parents are caught in the middle.

The culture wars have a new target: your teeth. 

Communities across the U.S. are ending public water fluoridation programs, often spurred by groups that insist that people should decide whether they want the mineral — long proven to fight cavities — added to their water supplies. 

The push to flush it from water systems seems to be increasingly fueled by pandemic-related mistrust of government oversteps and misleading claims, experts say, that fluoride is harmful.

The anti-fluoridation movement gained steam with Covid,” said Dr. Meg Lochary, a pediatric dentist in Union County, North Carolina. “We’ve seen an increase of people who either don’t want fluoride or are skeptical about it.”

There should be no question about the dental benefits of fluoride, Lochary and other experts say. Major public health groups, including the American Dental Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, support the use of fluoridated water. All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%.

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[-] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 196 points 5 months ago

"Medical freedom", the rallying cry for all kinds of grifters spreading disinformation and wanting to roll back the progress made in public health.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago

And they don't seem to like the fact that they have the freedom to filter the fluoride back out of the water.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 126 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The thing that seriously hurts those anti-fluoridation nuts is that fluoride can naturally be in water supplies and there are water supplies with higher PPM fluoride amounts than municipalities that add them in the U.S., but there don't appear to be any increased health issues.

Not that such people generally care.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago

As I said to a friend years ago: show me one case of fluoride poisoning....just one and I'll believe you that it's dangerous.

He couldn't. End of discussion.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Children can theoretically get fluorosis in their teeth if they chug mouthwash, but it’s a pretty uncommon thing to do.

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[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago

We evolved to get our nutrients from natural sources, some of those sources water … and we are filtering a lot of it out arbitrarily then being afraid to put it back.

There was an argument made a while back that filtering the lithium out of our water is messing with folks too.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

So we took the lead out of the air and that made people less crazy, but we also took the lithium out of the water and that made people more crazy.

Hooray us.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

To be fair we were putting the lead into the air in the first place.

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[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

That's actually how we discovered that fluoride in public drinking water is good for your teeth. Colorado Springs had natural fluoride in their drinking water and their rate of cavities was way lower than the national average, so some dentists searched around to figure out the cause.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago

For once, the answer to a question posed in the headline is obviously yes.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago

yeah. Im happily surprised the article itself was not about the conspiracy nonsense.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hey, a article that bucks Betteridge's Law.

Of course there's no question, yes, and Republicans and communities should be ashamed at being this stupid to cater to such a dumb, ridiculous, and small group of idiots and are going to cost everyone more in dental insurance to socialize the cost of their stupidity.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago

They have their freedom, they are free to do whatever they want to filter their own drinking water. They're free to buy or produce distilled water for all their consumption. They're free to only ever drink beer. But the drinking water provided as a public good should be maintained for the good of the public, and when the studies are pretty clear that fluoridated water fights tooth decay, then fluoridated water it is.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

So we've circled back to to water/fluoride water conspiracies again?

History, doomed to repeat, before our very eyes once more..

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Put the lithium in already.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%

But because of my sugar intake, my teeth are shit anyway

/s

[-] QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

I absolutely can't stand minty or cinnamon toothpaste, and have really struggled with brushing my teeth because of it. It drives me absolutely insane that so many of the flavors I can tolerate are only available in fluoride free formulations and/or get discontinued.

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[-] shani66@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago

We should not be encouraging the least among us.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

And yet the least among us is now the Republican candidate for president.

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[-] manucode@infosec.pub 19 points 5 months ago

Here in Germany, drinking water isn't fluoridated but fluoridated salt is sold at every grocery store. I assume that fluoridated salt isn't as easily available to those in the US who could now end up without fluoridated water, is it?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

I have never seen fluoridated salt in the U.S. Our salt usually has iodine in it to make up for the iodine deficiency that was in American diets before that happened.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Just let the fuckers teeth fall out already. I am tired of so much effort being spent on people who clearly want to die. It is everything, from seatbelts to motorcycle helmets to vaccines to transfats to HFC drinks. They want to die? Let them. Maybe darwinism will save us from them maybe it won't but at least we can all stop hearing about it.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 months ago

Hi, I'm shit at brushing my teeth long enough/regularly enough. I am glad fluride is in the water.

Hi I'm someone who has concerns about animal testing and is sensitive to SLS causing mouth ulcers/generally ruining taste for a while, unfortunately hippy toothpaste often lacks fluride for insane reasons. I am glad fluride is in the water.

Hi I'm a kid with horrible parents that neglect my dental care. I am glad fluride is in the water.

"Just let people hurt themselves" is never that easy.

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[-] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 months ago

It's not freedom if it contradicts science and goes against healthcare for the public.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Yes. The answer is yes.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

yes but we should do more studies on non-dental effects of water fluoridation.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 5 months ago

The only thing "bad" about flouride I know that is true is that it can lower DHT levels in your blood. I put bad in quotes because I don't know what DHT actually does, but the conspiracy I've heard is that DHT is needed to dream and imagine, so by drinking fluoridated water you're destroying your own creativity or whatever.

I always thought it was funny.

[-] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

A friend of mine who believed a lot of conspiracy theories told me it was bad because it calcifies your pineal gland. I called bullshit and googled it.

Turns out, it actually does. There was no proof at the time that this causes any sort of issues, but there it was. I was unhappy that they were actually right about something; I didn’t want to give them the idea that any of their other crazy ideas had any validity.

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[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm glad people are finally taking a stand against Big Dental conglomerates. Wake up, people! Take charge of your own teeth!!

Edit: Sigh. I think I'll just add "/s" to my username.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I was pretty sure it was a joke, but you can never tell when it comes to these sort of crazies.

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[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Man, are these conspiracy nuts gonna be mad when they accidently ban us removing fluoride from water with dangerous concentrations. The amount of fluoride we shoot for would require a 155 lb person to drink around 5000 gallons.

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