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Misinformation campaigns increasingly target the cavity-fighting mineral, prompting communities to reverse mandates. Dentists are enraged. Parents are caught in the middle.

The culture wars have a new target: your teeth. 

Communities across the U.S. are ending public water fluoridation programs, often spurred by groups that insist that people should decide whether they want the mineral — long proven to fight cavities — added to their water supplies. 

The push to flush it from water systems seems to be increasingly fueled by pandemic-related mistrust of government oversteps and misleading claims, experts say, that fluoride is harmful.

The anti-fluoridation movement gained steam with Covid,” said Dr. Meg Lochary, a pediatric dentist in Union County, North Carolina. “We’ve seen an increase of people who either don’t want fluoride or are skeptical about it.”

There should be no question about the dental benefits of fluoride, Lochary and other experts say. Major public health groups, including the American Dental Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, support the use of fluoridated water. All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago

And they don't seem to like the fact that they have the freedom to filter the fluoride back out of the water.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago
[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 64 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO FILTER THE FLUORIDE BACK OUT OF THE WATER.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

fluoride is not easy to filter - its smaller than water molecules.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

Right.

Let's put any amount of contaminates in our drinking water just so people can "filter them out."

I swear, some of you people are just too far gone.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 66 points 7 months ago

Again, there are places where fluoride occurs naturally in drinking water at higher concentrations than it is added artificially and there don't seem to be significant health problems.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hmmmmm no ! I'm not against fluoride in water, I don't care since I don't live in north america but spreading disinformation does not help.

There is regions, especially in India, where fluoride occurs by naturally in water in high concentration which is causing multiple serious health issues.

Neurology of endemic skeletal fluorosis

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

"There are higher concentrations of fluoride in water than we usually put in it that is still healthy to drink" != "Any concentration of fluoride in water is safe"

Any substance becomes toxic if you ingest too much of it. If you exceed by a factor of 20 the amount of plenty of things people usually consume, it isn't difficult to find things that are dangerous or even lethal. Say, coffee, beer, anti-inflammatories, chocolate, Coke.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Cool. I said higher concentrations that are added artificially, not extremely high concentration.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

there are places where fluoride occurs naturally in drinking water at higher concentrations than it is added artificially and there don't seem to be significant health problems.

I'm simply replying that there is places where fluoride occurs naturally in drinking water at higher concentration that it is added artificially and there is significant health problems in these places.

Does it means that fluoride in low concentration like in the US water system is dangerous ? No, it just means that very high concentration can be dangerous.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I was talking about concentrations in the U.S. I think that should have been obvious.

[-] bolexforsoup 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] john89@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

The fluoride in your tap water is not a contaminant.

Says who?

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 27 points 7 months ago

Yes, the World Heath Organization (WHO) does say it is not a contaminent and that appropriate levels are needed.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago
[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

all scientists and health authorities are wrong so instead we should believe a wacky guy on the internet with no sources, credentials, or evidence? Ok...

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago
[-] bolexforsoup 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] bolexforsoup 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Complains about cherrypicking as he cherrypicks.

Lol. Jk. They're right about most things, but are they right about everything?

That's the problem with treating science like a religion.

[-] bolexforsoup 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Literally every person who understands science and water treatment

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Didn't know there were so many water experts on lemmy.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol three weeks later... I know you're being facetious, but I'm literally an engineer. I'd rather not dox myself so I won't be more specific, but yes I do know about water treatment.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago
[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Lol the funny thing is that comebacks like that are completely worthless when the thing I originally said is actually true.

It reminds me a bit of the "you still live in your mom's basement," insult. Like it just falls flat when you say it to someone who's lived alone for a decade... It just doesn't work.

But I don't need to prove shit to some idiot on the internet.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago
[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

"Contaminants" 🙄

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