To the "lets not vote" crowd because Biden didn't do something or other, this will be your congratulations.
I'm sure the Gazans will be thrilled with that crowd's upstanding moral conviction as Donnie quintuples the drone count
"Finish the job" or whatever the specific wording that Trump used sounds far worse than that.
If they're still around by next January, you mean.
There won't be a Gaza to level by the time the next term starts. "Uninstructed" and similar campaigns are trying to get Biden to influence his policies now, not make a statement about which man will be better in the next genocide.
There's been a Gaza for decades, it's not going to stop just because the genocidal Bibi tries to, even if it is being turned into rubble. The primary uncommited campaign is good, and I support it, but people saying that they're gonna vote for Trump over Biden / that they'll abstain entirely are just not going to help either present or future atrocities — wiping your hand clean doesn't save lives.
Saying they won't vote for Biden is the only leverage they have to exercise to prompt policy changes. "Uncommitted" scoring big in Michigan was effectively the first time Biden even started to pay attention to anti-genocide voters. Again, the goal is to make Biden change his stance so that he wins the election. Threatening his election is the leverage, not the end goal.
Yes, but it only works so much as that leverage exists. When the alternative is Trump, that leverage isn't gonna be realistically useable come November — and there are definitely folks who don't just say they won't vote for Biden over this issue (which is imo good, since that's the whole point of a democracy). I just worry that this strategy actually does extend to the general election and make even more people suffer even more... IMO, focus should be on bottom up — specifically the legislative branch, where there's quite a few especially in the House where a primary campaign could do well and force the issue at hand.
That voters are a single unit that will in the end have to choose between Trump and Biden is a false assumption, because people aren't objective robots and the representatives you see online or leading campaigns are just the tip of the iceberg. Many Muslim voters aren't going to stay home because they don't think there's a difference between Trump and Biden, they'll stay home because they're mad as hell and maybe voting wasn't that essential to them in the first place. The people speaking out, and the political junkies online, are probably all going to end up voting for Biden (at least in states where voting for president matters), but they're in tune with and representing sentiment for voters within their communities that aren't reachable by a cold argument about relative value.
The Democratic party can't berate voters into supporting them, they need to actually do things that make them believe in them. There are too many out there for whom politics is a vibes thing and who will never have a direct conversation with a political advocate to tell them about strategic voting for lesser evils. Biden could lose because of Gaza, but that's not because some politically active people organized a opposition campaign. The voters he's losing are being lost because he's adamantly rejecting the position of the majority of his party while genocide and starving children are playing on the nightly news. That doesn't go away if all these advocates just pretend it's not happening. They're putting a spotlight on the danger, not causing it.
Trump is an enormous amount of leverage. Biden basically has to adapt if he cares about stopping Trump.
Lending your support to a genocide in progress isn't lesser evil. It's simply evil.
A former aide to President Donald Trump and current co-host of ABC's The View
What a dystopian fucking sentence!
At least it's not another lobbyist or oil/finance company board member.
True, just a professional fascist swamp dweller for the last decade plus change:
Before 2014, Griffin wrote articles for her father's far-right website WorldNetDaily, where she served as a "special Washington correspondent for WND."[7][6] In 2010, Griffin was a media intern for Congressman Tom McClintock and began a one-year position as an associate producer on The Laura Ingraham Show.[11] In the 2012 Presidential election cycle, Griffin was the spokesperson for the College Republican National Committee, traveling the country discussing the youth vote. In 2014, she was named Press Secretary for Congressman Mark Meadows; she was later named as his Communications Director. She went on to work as the Communications Director for the Freedom Caucus in the U.S. House of Representatives, serving under Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows.[12]
Ignore the trump shit. They hired someone that worked for WorldNutDaily?
Yeah, the whole false equivalence appearance of neutrality bullshit they have going forces them to REALLY scrape the bottom of the barrel sometimes..
wrote articles for her father's far-right website
Now we have nepo-fascists to worry about too? Damnit.
This really shouldn't be surprising. The man has signalled and announced his desire to shoot first and ask questions later at the slightest provocation. He's also very vocally pro-Israel. Anybody crowing about "Genocide Joe" is a bad actor intentionally trying to confuse the discourse with bullshit noise. There is no ethical vote except for Biden. Every single US president has been pro-Israel, so just drop that argument and start focussing on how to materially improve living conditions of actual Americans.
Good news, everybody! It's already mostly leveled, so the odds of there being anything left by next January are slim.
He's fat, but he's not that fat.
to be fair.... he does everything without a thought.
He's incapable of thought. somebody should stuff him in a dark lab and do some psychatric tests for.... I dunno... the next decade?
Broke: People being opposed to the ongoing genocide in Gaza are going to get Trump elected.
Woke: Biden's uncritical support of an unpopular genocide in Gaza is going to get Trump elected.
Biden could just, you know, stop giving arms to Israel.
Stop sending them bombs right now, and withhold money until they can prove they’ve stopped murdering civilians. This is an easy solution, it’s such a low bar, yet Biden is unable to clear it.
If I were to turn on my Machiavellian reptile brain and looked at this situation (from what I've read) as if this was a game or something...
Israel is kinda like The West's attack/guard dog in the Middle East. That dog is getting out of control. The only leash that The West has on Israel is their funding, remove the funding and they remove the leash, and now we've got an out of control dog with nukes and no leash. It may not seem like the leash isn't doing much to control it but it's far better than letting the dog loose. Especially considering how powerful the dog is, how it seems to have more control over The West than the other way around, might have to do with all the religious leadership on both sides looking forward to the red cow they're sacrificing this month, maybe their prophecy of a "second coming" and (nuclear) fire raining from the sky to end humanity is kinda the point.
I'm going to stop the reptile brain before it mentions how we typically deal with bad dogs that can't be tamed, because god forbid THAT'S taking things too far.
Has no one seen Gaza lately? Looks like Biden has done a pretty good job of leveling it, without a thought, and several million dollars richer for it.
Both Biden and Trump are motivated by the aipac money. Period. Don’t fool yourself.
You can’t shame the younger voters into voting for Biden. They don’t care what Hillary Clinton thinks and they are tired of being lied too by corporate donors, I mean corporate politicians.
How about understanding that there are only 2 candidates? You either support one with your vote, or you support the other with your apathetic attitude and myopic perspective on politics.
Again. You can not shame people into voting for your candidate
America has to be the only "democracy" that shames voters for disagreeing with politicians instead of the reverse.
It's wild that people think they have more ability to change the minds of millions of disconnected voters than the one guy who wants their votes and whose job it is to respond to public sentiment.
Forget which side you think is wronger in their thinking. Trying to individually argue voters into compliance is pushing against the ocean.
You mean like what Biden is doing right now?
US says Israel has not violated international law during Gaza war
Biden administration set to greenlight $18 billion sale of F-15 fighter jets to Israel
U.S. signs off on more bombs, warplanes for Israel
These "but muh Trump would" statements are as tone deaf as Biden saying he cares about his Muslim constituents.
Trump pardoned literal war criminals, sold weapons to Israel too, and forced through a sale of weapons to Saudis too. You're acting as if the world is black and white, with no scales
Given the way it is portrayed on the news, I thought it already was practically leveled. Or does this mean extra leveled? Like salt the earth.
Unfortunately, Biden already is allowing this to happen, however
Trump probably would too, but Biden already is
"If he thought it was politically advantageous, [Trump] would level Gaza without a second thought"
He didn't actually say that, just so we're clear here.
Nah, he's just publicly gone on the record as being grossly Islamophobic and pro-Israel. I wonder how people got the impression he would ratchet up the violence in Gaza.
All they want is the beach front property to build condos. They don't care about people.
Human life has no value to these people, never has.
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