They killed him cause he told them to love each other. That'll get you killed just about anywhere. Humans love to hate.
That said the air of 'I'm special' didn't help.
And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, one girl sitting on her own in a small cafe in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time, and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
(Immediately after she realized it, the Earth gets destroyed.)
let's maybe not push the propagandic idea that humans are inherently bad, humans are in fact inherently extremely friendly (to a fault) and the idea that the opposite is true is part of what's needed to restrain our inherent need to help others.
Any time a group of humans is placed in a difficult position they start working together, there's that famous example of a group of kids accidentally ending up basically recreating Lord of the flies except they just got along and eventually had pretty comfortable lives, because as it turns out working together makes things way easier!
Humans mostly help each other. Governments do not like challenges to their authority. Jesus was killed because of the challenge he represented to the Pharisees. Ultimately Rome killed him, but at the demand of the Pharisees and an unruly mob that had been whipped into a frenzy.
They killed him because all he did was preach the apocalypse and the end times to a bunch of poors that began upsetting the power dynamic.
They didn't barely kill him. He was dead for like a weekend. They killed the witches properly.
Except for the Sanderson sisters. They took a couple tries.
They didn’t barely kill him. He was dead for like a weekend. They killed the witches properly.
Sounds like a skill issue. If the witches were any good at witching, they wouldnt have died either.
To be fair, Jesus was a lich. That's a whole other power level
If there's another story for his resurrection,I'd love to hear it.
He was mostly dead. Not all dead.
I'M NOT DEAD YET!
NO HE'S NOT DEAD YET
There’s a chocolate for that too… I think.
Aaaaah, look who knows so much
The Salem trials came later. I wonder if there discussion was like Townsperson 1: "So this woman with the wart, should we just nail her to a couple pieces of wood"
Townsperson 2: "Nah man, remember the last guy we did that with. Didn't take"
Townsperson 1: "Riiiight. So, wood, nails, and a bonfire then?"
Townsperson 2: Yeah that should do it"
I mean....its not their fault male magic users are harder to kill.
It wasn't his followers that killed him though. His followers did however torture and kill women.
Ya but I'm pretty sure the witches' followers didn't kill the witches either. Obviously just needed more followers. Clearly, the predominant religion is the one with the most followers willing to kill competing dark arts users. It's basically politics.
It depends on which witches you are talking about; 800AD+ its probably persecution, prior to that it's probably Rome clearing out Human Sacrifice cults. It's one of the major reasons Rome was so hard on ancient Briton and why Christianity had such an easy time converting Scandinavia.
this is where i wish lemmy had r/askhistorians because i remember for a fact there’s some mandela effect here and culturally we are misremembering something key but as a non-historian i’d look like an idot trying to call it out
edit: ok i figured it out and my point is moot. i am remembering that the Salem witch trials in America did not involve burnings, but hangings. however the witch trials in Europe very much did involve burning.
sorry for the semi-useless comment haha
No worries I too miss AskHistorians. Reddit could have been more.
literally the modern burning of the library of alexandria is going on and no one* is talking about it
*ok probably not no one im just being overdramatic
Probably, but we don't mind. Most of us are refugees watching the burning, and mourning what could have been.
there’s just so much value to historians being accessible to the public. there’s a reason universities pay them tenure despite not bringing immediate material benefit to the local community or economy, and reddit seemingly magically allowed for a forum that was even more open and accessible than a university.
and now that’s being fucked over by IPOs and LLMs.
Yes, the penalty for being a witch was hanging. Unfortunately the test to prove you were a witch sometimes involved tying you up and throwing you into a lake to see if you float or sink, and if you float then they would hang you. Of course the situation resolved itself if you didn't float. No one ever floated.
Or putting you under a stone.
Giles Corey, one of the more famous Salem victims. His wife was tried for witchcraft, and while he stood against her, he got wrapped up in it, too. They placed large stones over his body, telling him if he confessed he would be given a clean death.
His last words are reported to be "More weight".
They killed him because he pissed off the State, not because magic tricks.
Theres a film about the book about it.
Best selling mythology ever.
Even a former president wants in on that best seller money.
Every con man has for the last 10 centuries.
Can't wait for the anime adaptation
Oh man, let me tell you about The Flying House.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_House_(TV_series)
Turns out maybe my ultra-christian grandma is the reason I turned into the heathen weeb I am today!
They killed him on a fancier stake, too!
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