I get all my bridge information from Andrew Tate and Alex Jones.
They're both certainly people who know how to burn bridges when they see them.
They’re also both people I’d like to see jump off one.
So all in all, they should have a lot of experience.
There is a saying in engineering.
Anyone can build a bridge.
It takes an engineer who can build a bridge just strong enough to let cars cross it.
Oh man, as a (non structural) engineer I love the saying
"Any asshole can build a bridge, but only an engineer can barely build a bridge"
I’ve heard it as “Anyone can build a bridge that stands, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands.”
"I just don't see how the whole bridge falls over that fast"
Bruh it is a ten million ton cargo ship bumping into it, do u think it's just gonna bounce off?
Yeah but it literally floats so how heavy can it be?
it floats way better than i do, so it can’t be that much heavier than i am. and let me tell you, there’s no way i could topple a bridge by running into it
But that could mean the ship is actually a witch! And witches do have a history of bringing down bridges.
That ship was about 100,000t.
There's a fairly crude equation in the American bridge engineering standard that relates impact load to the mass of a ship, which is:
P =√(DWT) +-50%
Where DWT is the deadweight tonnage, and P is the impact load in meganewtons.
So in this case P=315MN +-50% which is 315000kN or 31500 tonnes of force...
For comparison, I'm working on a project where we're going to build a new concrete bridge on the ground next to where it needs to go (under a railway) then wait until we have a planned week with no trains running and push it into position using jacks. That bridge is a 60m long 20m wide 8m high concrete box with 1m thick walls and top and bottom slabs, and we think we will need about 30MN to install it (one tenth of the impact load from that ship).
So yeah... that's quite a hit.
Sure you can build a bridge they can withstand a crazy like that. It'll cost more than the cities it connects and nobody has a budget for that.
You see, gravity is just a theory see.
I mean, all it takes is a look at the cost of shit like tuition and text books to conclude college is a scam, but that doesn't equal a disrespect for the knowledge of people who've gone through it.
The difference lies in whether the speaker thinks the problem is the clearly evident financial exploitation or thinks that the education isn't valuable.
(I almost walked away from commenting on this like three times. Hopefully I made sense) I don't believe that modern college equals education, necessarily. How many corporate VPs have impressive college credentials but took nothing away more than future networking? Education is extremely valuable as is an educated society. And I get that we're talking about people who do not value the societal benefit of a well-rounded education. Schools don't seem to value it anymore either. We've commodified "knowledge". It's merely a stepping stone to better earnings. Engineering and medicine, though, are two positions I think anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together should value the quality of their educations.
There are mainly 2 types of "college is a scam" people. Type 1 is anti-education and places more value on what they typically refer to as "common sense" and think that you don't need an education to know about something. They're the type most likely to think they know more than experts and argue with engineers about bridges. Type 2 is more anti-capitalist and doesn't view education as a scam itself but rather how costly that education is and the opportunities provided to educated people who paid the price is what they see as a scam. They're usually capable of recognizing and acknowledging their lack of understanding about a topic and listen to experts because they do value education, they just think access to it should be easier and cheaper and provide more tangible results for the effort put into obtaining it. This post is probably talking about type 1.
Same thing with Big Pharma. People hear that pharmaceutical companies are greedy and untrustworthy and think it means that their medicine doesn't work. It does, they just charge excessive amounts of money for it. We don't hate big pharma because vaccines don't work, we hate Big Pharma because they sell insulin at a 10,000% markup
I don’t know, finishing my engineering degree has opened up many a door to well paying careers.
My other two bachelor degrees (business and criminal justice) are completely useless.
All I know about bridges is how to sell them, and I have one right now I can guarantee was built by an entirely white construction team. I examined their skull shapes myself. I'll just need about $80 million, and it's all yours, Elon.
This reminds me of a line from K.I.Z.:
"Nazis erkenn' ich an der Kopfform."
(I recognise Nazis by the shape of their skulls.)
What the hell are people debating here? A 150.000 tonne object crashed into a structure made of thin sticks (comparatively speaking). There is no doubt that the bridge would collapse. Especially since an arch is only stable if it is undamaged.
Yes, but you forget: lots of people are stupid.
George Carlin never fails to be accurate: Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are even stupider than that.
I don't think Knowledge is a scam, but I firmly believe that the current College system(at least in the US) is a scam or at the very least super predatory, it's one of the only types of debt that you can't bankrupt on, and if you try to go for anything more than a bachelor's you're likely not going to be able to pay off the loan due to interest accumulation.
I would say predatory is the right word, unless you have money.
Although I would not put most community colleges in that boat.
I mean, colleges are fucking expensive and their biggest appeal is a promise of a high paying job. Even public ones still eat up your soul and you may not necessarily be ready for "the job market" after graduation, or even academic life. Wholly different discussion.
Still, no way in hell I'll doubt that a bajillion ton (tonnes, whatever) of inertia can bring down a bridge. That's effectively an asteroid boulder slowly rolling down hill
Same. I was thinking, "yes, college IS a scam, but I wouldn't argue with most experts in their respective fields."
Same dunce heads who argued against vaccines
Engineering is one of the few non-scam college degrees
And what are the apparently majority scam degrees?
You’ll get a lot of people arguing arts degrees where there aren’t jobs are scams.
Frankly, I think there’s a divide between what we expect of education and what education should be.
There’s kind of a spectrum from required credentials like medical, law, or engineering degrees, to things like stem programs which are not required but open job doors, to arts degrees where there’s not really many direct careers being opened.
Charging an arm and a leg for arts programs is a scam because it’s not opening the same economic opportunities as career based degrees. Having or providing arts degrees is totally fine, they just need to be cheaper.
I think the main benefit of an art degree (for the average person) is learning to research, communicate ideas, and think critically. I have a degree in political science and work in an IT/business role but I absolutely don't regret my choice of degree.
My Bach degree was in history, and I often wrote off the importance of the “critical thinking” skills we learned in that program.
Boy was I wrong, I know too many people who need nothing more than an unsourced headline to fully convince them of something ludacris.
What is there to argue? Like there's video evidence of it happening
There were no construction workers killed in the collapse! It was all fake!
The CIA caused the ship to lose power!
The ship was remote controlled! There wasn’t actually anybody on board until after the collision!
The “construction workers” were actually deep state black ops agents that were there to loosen bolts on the bridge to ensure it collapsed when the ship hit it.
And so on… Never underestimate the fantasies that conspiracy theorists can come up with.
BOAT FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS
Same with 9/11. That doesn't stop people.
I have had more PhDs recommend against college than for it. I'm not joking. It's scary.
They'll tell you that if you can get by without a degree, by all means do or at least heavily consider it.
Education is undoubtedly important, as often evidenced by people's lack of it. But even those who ran the gauntlet decades ago have lost faith in the system.
And now we have a whole new litany of problems on their way because of the rising prominence of GenAI and I can confidently say that academia is wholly unprepared for the shit storm coming it's way.
Just use HostNetwork, why would you use a bridge
I went to college for a stem degree... IDK if it's a scam, but I'm extremely far from happy with the value proposition. And my school was relatively affordable.
Of course, that's not a problem with colleges but with policy, imo
Hell, 3 hours in polybridge would probably give the common sense to realize that supports do in fact, hold the bridge up
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