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submitted 7 months ago by jkelosed@feddit.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

This happens in Germany.

Work culture doesn't fit my personality: I don't talk much, I keep to myself, I simply want to do my job and go home, I separate my personal life from work, my colleagues are full fledged gossips, ignore the duties that need to be done and then expect me to help them when they are late. I don't have patience for that crap anymore.

Due to internal regulations, I have to stay on the unit for 4 weeks after sending my notice. Answering honestly the question of why I'm quitting would ensure that they yell at me and bully me, and I don't want to experience that again. Even saying 'it's none of your business' ensures that they feel insulted and start yelling. I have decided I don't have patience for people like that anymore.

So, what do I say?

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 92 points 7 months ago

Start telling a long and rambling story that in no way relates. Keep talking until interrupted.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 40 points 7 months ago

Interrupt yourself with explanations that jump from place to place on the timeline of events but doesn't help the story in the slightest. "It all began with (insignificant event) back in (month and year). We were supposed to be doing (work task with too detailed of an explanation), but (coworker) started talking to us about (current event at the time, explain in too much detail). Then (I/family member/friend) got COVID about a week or so later. I think they probably got it from not wearing a mask at (event). (Explain all the COVID precautions and conspiracies and left vs right politics)."

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

So basically watch some Trump speeches and mimic them.

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[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 23 points 7 months ago

Be sure to punctuate your actions with the occasional "...Which was the style at the time."

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[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I remember being on the hiring committee for my new manager. One of the two finalist candidates took several times longer than necessary to answer the questions without adding substance. When we met to discuss our decision, most committee members tried to voice more substantive reasons. Finally someone just cut the shit and said something like "it sounds like no one wants to listen to him talk." So yes, yammering is an excellent people repellent.

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[-] ada 58 points 7 months ago

Help me formulate the dullest response to colleagues

Now if there was ever a job for an LLM like ChatGPT, this is it

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 20 points 7 months ago

I asked llama2.ai and this is what it said.

The suggestions sound..... generic. I guess that's the point.

  1. Keep it simple: • "I've decided it's time for me to move on to new opportunities. I'm excited about what the future holds." • "I'm leaving for personal reasons, but I'm grateful for the experience I've gained here."
  2. Emphasize positivity: • "I've learned so much during my time here, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to have worked with such a great team." • "I've really enjoyed my time at this company, and I'm going to miss working with you all."
  3. Offer support during the transition: • "I want to make sure that everything runs smoothly during the transition. Is there anything specific you'd like me to focus on in my remaining time here?" • "I'm happy to help with training or knowledge transfer in any way I can. Just let me know what you need."
[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 11 points 7 months ago

ChatGPT gave me:

“I have decided to move on to pursue different opportunities. Thank you for your support and cooperation during my time here.”

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[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 17 points 7 months ago

I asked Bing to answer like a politician. Here’s what I got.

I appreciate your engagement on this topic. It’s indeed a multifaceted issue that requires a nuanced approach. When contemplating the intricacies of career transitions, one must consider the broader socio-economic factors at play. The dynamics of the workforce, the shifting paradigms of work-life balance, and the pursuit of personal fulfillment are all critical elements that inform such decisions.

In the grand tapestry of one’s professional life, each role is a thread that contributes to the overall pattern. It’s not merely about the positions one holds, but the narrative they weave together. It’s about the people you meet, the skills you acquire, and the impact you make. And sometimes, to continue weaving that narrative, a change of scenery is necessary—not because the previous scene was inadequate, but because the story demands growth, and growth often requires change.

Moreover, in the spirit of public service and the continuous quest for improvement, it’s incumbent upon us to seek out challenges that not only test our mettle but also contribute to the collective advancement of our communities. Thus, when one door closes, it’s not a termination, but a transition; not an end, but an evolution. And as we evolve, we must adapt our strategies and roles to better serve the common good, always with an eye towards the future and the endless possibilities it holds.

It’s important to consider that a career, much like a journey, is composed of various experiences and opportunities. Decisions regarding one’s professional path are often reflective of a multitude of factors, including personal growth, aspirations, and the ever-evolving landscape of the industry. It’s essential to align one’s professional endeavors with the broader objectives and values that we hold dear. Thus, any decision made in this context is done with careful consideration of not only the immediate implications but also the long-term vision for one’s contributions to the greater good.

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

These are the best answers of the bunch. Honest, direct, and without emotion.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 56 points 7 months ago

I've quit a toxic workplace before - I just said "it's a bad commute". Nobody can really pick at that reasoning since everyone has way too many personal variables for commutes (even from adjacent houses) to be comprable.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 7 months ago

Just say, “I don’t feel passionate about this work and I want to look for something that I find more fulfilling.”

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 30 points 7 months ago

You're kinda asking non German people how to deal with German people I'm not sure you'll get what you're looking for here

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago

The colour of the walls irritates me.

[-] Jourei@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago

"I got an offer I couldn't refuse." and leave it at that! The offer might as well be just 'not having to deal with you guys anymore'.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

That's a glorious response.
But if they probe into it more say, OP should say that they signed an NDA for now due to rules/laws.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 22 points 7 months ago

Just say personal reasons. Even if they're nosy and keep pushing, in that case they're clearly in the wrong to any sane person looking on, because it's normal to not want to share your deepest most personal problems with your coworkers.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago

"well, with how things are going.."
"You'll find out soon enough"
"You know about mice and ships..?"
Refuse to elaborate further.

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 7 months ago

"I'd rather not say". Repeat this single answer until they desist.

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 21 points 7 months ago

A bearded stranger told me to throw away a ring.

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Tell me where is Gandalf for I much desire to speak with him.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Just start crying everytime and say nothing. They will get unconfortable and leave.

[-] hertg@infosec.pub 19 points 7 months ago

Since you are from Germany, simply say "Die Grünen sind Schuld". Everyone will understand and accept this reason.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 19 points 7 months ago

The water is too crunchy here.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They've changed the kale vendor at the bistro I frequent, it's now a much inferior product. Unfortunately the next closest establishment that serves my favorite lemon kale salad is too far away, so I have had to take employment elsewhere.

[-] TacoNot@mander.xyz 18 points 7 months ago

Say you make more money from your Only Fans. I just makes more sense to do it full time now.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I won the lottery.

My mental health can't handle this bullshit.

I had an opportunity I couldn't pass up.

I have to care for my father/mother/aunt/dog.

I want to travel and see the world.

I hate you.

I hate (insert random coworker/boss here.)

My wife/husband is taking care of me.

Onlyfans makes more than here.

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 24 points 7 months ago

Ha, tell each one that you hate a different one!

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

Say something like:

“It’s best not to discuss such details at this time”

Which will tell them, yes, there is a good reason, no, I can’t tell you since I don’t trust you.

You will never get in trouble for something like that since you literately are not saying anything.

The bonus part is that if the coworker is cool, they can just reach out to you a week or two after you left and you can be honest if you think they are worth it.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

They caught me pissing in the water jug from the kitchen. Shrug. Guess I'm out.

[-] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"I found something better, but I'm not able to divulge what it is at this time. "

Or

"You! You're the reason I'm quitting."

"I won the lottery! No, you can't have any."

Or, Give each of them a different reason and watch them go crazy trying to figure it out.

[-] Black616Angel@feddit.de 15 points 7 months ago

Say you are working for a family member (helping your dad with his company or sth.). A colleague once had to go help his parents with their small company and no one questioned it a bit. No "better pay?" or "man you are moving far away!" just "oh, well good luck".

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[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 15 points 7 months ago

Assuming they don't know what you'll be doing after?

Say "found a new opportunity."

You could be headed into unemployment and that'd still be a businesslike and no nonsense reply.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My cat has asthma, we're moving to a drier climate.

It's the triple boring combo of pets, manageable illness, and moving.

[-] 520@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"oh damn, you guys didn't know? I feel bad for you but it's probably too late for you now. Guess you'll find out soon enough."

Then: complete radio silence.

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[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

Go with the standard politician non-answer: "to spend more time with family". I have no idea if German politicians give the same stock response though!

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 11 points 7 months ago

"They were getting too close to figuring it out."

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 months ago

Put on a painfully sad face and say that you/someone in your family has medical issues and that you don't want to speak more about it.

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[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 10 points 7 months ago

There are already a lot of good answers here, so instead I’ll offer you a game you might enjoy.

For context, I used to have the same problem, but I stumbled into a hack that turns it into a fun pastime rather than a nuisance or concern, and now it’s one of my favorite parts of taking up a new post.

What: Seed your own wild rumors by baiting known gossips with decoys.

How: While I’m often surprised by which rumors have legs, it seems prompt technique is the key controllable factor. Prompts that are more off-hand, indirect, and opaque seem to cultivate rumors with better proliferation and more colorful embellishments. I’m not sure why less is more here, but my theory is that the more gossips have to make up, the more they “own” their version of your story and the better they are at selling it. If necessary, you can drop some facts here and there (use only truths) but in general try to avoid details. Gossips are insanely good at filling these in on your behalf.

Who: This part is easiest. Gossips will always come to you. Usually they are some of the first people to approach you at your new job, looking for the scoop. The first you meet are usually the defacto gossip leads, but the rest reveal themselves quickly, especially if your rumors are good. You will learn to recognize them by the way they sidle up in the break room or pry opportunistically in conversation, however the easiest sign is that they respond to evasiveness and deflection in the opposite way others do.

Why:

  1. Reconciling their conflicting versions of your personal story and private life disrupts their rumor mill internally and erodes their legitimacy externally.
  2. You have the unique pleasure of receiving, over time, fragments of “your story.” This has utility for tracing the leaks and determining network composition, but mostly it’s just hilarious to see what they come up with, and interesting to know the versions of you that people will entertain.
  3. As to social risk, so far none of my rumors have developed into anything terribly embarrassing — usually what they come up with is far more interesting than reality, sometimes even flattering — but the few times I’ve had to correct a story in conversation it was met with instant acceptance of the more realistic take. Most people know to take hearsay with a grain of salt.
  4. I suppose the gossips might be mad if they realized you were toying with them, but I suspect they would just treat you as a dry well and leave you alone, which also solves your problem.
  5. It’s relatively victimless as mischief goes. You don’t even have to lie. In fact it works better if you don’t.
  6. And it requires almost no effort.

TL;DR: You can bait the nosy nellies into writing fan fiction for you. It’s easy, fun, and good for the environment. Your personality traits make you a natural at this game —others might need to tone down their instinct to overshare or practice being pointedly vague — but if in doubt just remember, storytelling is the gossips’ job and you are their humble yet beloved muse.

[-] 342345@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago

I need a sabbatical. Canada maybe or New Zealand. A retreat to a monastery also sounds nice. I will rebuild an old farm house. Something along these lines. :)

It doesn't have to be the truth, or does it?

[-] quafeinum@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

“New job pays X euros more” and make up random number. That’ll shut em up

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Alternatively, and this has happened to me, they may offer to match the number. When a former boss did this it did get a bit awkward and I had to say "No, I honestly just don't like it here and tbe fact that you're offering me a 60% raise as I walk out the door after never giving reasonable CoL increases just cements that more." I fucking hate squeaky wheel driven compensation, it's stressful and makes employment unnecessarily adversarial (employment is an inherently adversarial activity in most of the world so you don't need to make it even worse).

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you risk people yelling at you for stopping, simply tell them there's too much yelling and drama for you.

Also if you have paid sick leave you could simply get ill depending on where you are and on union agreements at least here where I am, the employer has no right to know why you are sick. Just that you are. After a certain number of days/weeks they can ask for a doctors notice that you indeed can't work. But still the proof does not need to explain your illness. It just needs to confirm that you are not able to work. Most doctors will understand the strain of having to be somewhere where youre under this sort of pressure

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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

“my doctor told me if I dont leave I will have a heart attack”

[-] Kindness@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

I found a good opportunity elsewhere.

My friend asked me to apply for a position they say has better career prospects.

America is hiring remote workers at better salaries.

Something unchangeable at this company reminds me of my dead dog and it's been killing me for years.

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