You can't do anything if you take all the crazy people on the street in consideration
Always keep in mind that you heard about it in the news. So it was a news-worthy event.
Or it was not really news worthy and got inflated by the media untill it was.
It's interesting to think about how gun violence is so common in the US that it's become local news. You only get brief national coverage if you mass-murder a large gathering of people. School shootings are now so common that they rise to national news if the death count rises above a dozen or so kids. There were 83 school shootings in the 2000's. There were 264 shootings in the 2010's. There have been 181 so far in the 2020's. We're well on track to double the 10's number by the end of the decade. More than 200 kids murdered in schools in the 2010's. How many did you heard about?
And that's just school shootings. The national level of people not murdered by police is far higher. There were 21,000 homicides by guns in 2021 alone. We don't call police-caused deaths "murder," but the nicely qualified "justifiable homocides," but in 2019, cops added another 1,000 people shot and killed by police to that number. It's a lot harder to get at totals when it involves law enforcement.
Anyway, it's rather incredible to me that murder has become so mundane. Or maybe it always has been, and it requires a Lizzy Borden situation to make national news.
Hmm... There was a comic about women and serial killers that got me started thinking about this but...
Do you think both genders are being sold on extremes of the other that might be skewing our ability to interact rationally?
Like women being sold extremes of men abusiveness and cults and rapists and men on stingy or "slutty" women. And now both genders are spending less time with each other and more with internalized extreme versions of each other?
It's like maybe a symptom of a lack of social spaces or maybe just leads to less of them as people only feel comfortable in closed groups. I'm thinking we are all being taken for a ride.
Or people are way worse than I can consider.
Okay so hear me out. I have this pet theory that might explain some of the divide between genders, but also political parties, causing paralysis which ultimately might lead to humanity's extinction. Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious.
I'm going to set up two axioms to arrive at an extrapolated conclusion.
One: Human psychology tends to ascribe more weight to negative things than positive things in the short term. In the long term this generally balances out, but in the short term it's more prudent in a biological sense to pay attention to the rustling in the bushes than the berries you might pick from them. This is known as the negativity bias.
Two: The modern gatekeepers of social interaction, Big Tech, employ blind algorithms that attempt to steer your attention towards spending more time on their platforms. These companies are the arbiters of the content we experience daily and what you do and don't see is mostly at their discretion. The techniques they employ, in simple terms, are designed to provoke what they call 'engagement'. They do this because at the end of the day FAANG have not only a financial interest, but a fiduciary duty to sell advertisements at the behest of their shareholders. The more they can engage you, the more ads they can sell. They employ live A-B testing, divide people into cohorts and poke and prod them with psychological techniques to try and glue your eyeballs to their ads.
Extrapolated conclusion: These companies have a financial and legally binding interest to divide the population against itself, obstructing politics and social interaction to the point where we might not be able to achieve any of the goals that we need to reach to prevent oblivion.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I absolutely agree and would only like to add that humans also have a Confirmation bias that is of course reinforced by engagement algorithms as well. So not only do we tend to only see the negative but also predominantly the negative that reinforces out worldview. Best example is the fact that many people are convinced crime rates are going up all the time while they are actually going down world-wide for decades already.
Maybe don’t constantly listen what media says? Otherwise u will end up paranoid.
Maybe actually listen to women's experiences, instead.
I can tell you haven't.
This seems more like an indictment of media than of patriarchy. Listening to too much True Crime will rot your brain
that must be it! if only those women hadn't listened to True Crime, they would still be alive now
Reading compression's not your strong suit is it?
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I'm assuming that you meant comprehension. You may want to work on your literacy skills before critiquing others' reading comprehension abilities.
For the men being dramatic in the comments, think about this: if your reaction to women saying they have a reason to be afraid is to take your dating ball and go home, whine and complain about women being afraid of you because if your gender, blame women for listening to reports of crime, or otherwise do anything but listen and expand your empathy, you are a big part of the reason women have to be cautious. Thank you for proving their point.
The mall thing actually happened?
Yup:
The boy, identified only as Landen, was 5 when Emmanuel Aranda threw him nearly 40 feet to the ground. Aranda, who had been banned from the Bloomington, Minnesota, mall twice in previous years, told investigators that when went there “looking for someone to kill” after women rejected his advances.
The guy sounds like a real winner.
Jesus fucking christ I figured it was a joke
When it comes to men being angry or violent at being spurned, it is never a joke.
Women have been telling us forever, though. Do we listen? Hence the comic. "Just say no, it can't be that scary!"
Oh, don't get me wrong. I know crazy shit happens CONSTANTLY but 'threw a kid off a balcony' was so over the top...
If a man kills random people, and it's not obviously racially motivated, you can safely bet it's about women.
This article has a story of a man throwing a boy, but doesn't say the reason why he threw the boy.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/06/us/boy-thrown-mall-of-america-settlement/index.html
Edit: Here is an article with the reason given by the man:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-threw-year-mall-america-balcony-tells-police/story?id=62423602
He said he came up with a plan to "kill someone at the mall" on Thursday and indicated that he was angry because women at the mall had rejected him.
So it looks like the comic is referencing an actual event.
Shit is scary out there. Had a situation recently that definitely reinforced how spooky it is being a woman in public.
So I'm chilling with crew at bar, came out to catch a homie mixing originals. One of our friends is a cutie. She's with 3 of us fellas, we're in a booth, very obviously a group that came here together. One of the regulars kicks it with us for a bit, harmless banter, classic bar chat shit.
Anyways, he ends up chilling for a bit, cracking jokes, having fun, says his homie owns the bar, etc, he gets a bit flirty (again, felt fully harmless at the time), goes to fetch us a round of brew. She only wanted a water by this stage in the night. When she finally gets around to taking a small sip all her internal alarm bells go off, thinks sum'm tastes off.
Anyways we manage to pick up the vibe and dip before anything extra sketch went down and had a lil debrief, made sure everyone was ok etc... One of my dudes had also taken a decent gulp first and seemingly got pretty woozy off it. Now, I can't for sure confirm whether it was truly laced or just shitty dirty bar hose water and a mild panic attack. Can't say whether homie was chemically woozy or placebo woozy (very well could've been tired from long day and lots of brew + dancing), but either way, enough to be a scary situation! We're like 95% sure shit was sketchy.
Absolutely worth trusting the gut when you get an off feeling. Better safe than sorry, all that. As a dude, I've NEVER needed to think twice about a gift beverage at a bar. I circle lots of music scenes and almost every single time I'm out I'll catch a random free drink, smoke, lol candy or whatever off a stranger randomly offering. I've definitely asked to confirm what these gifts are, but generally felt safe enough to take their answers at face value.
Ladies DEFINITELY can't be as cavalier about gifts from strangers though... That's how they end up the subject of these crime podcasts.
Idk, felt like a relevant story to share.
Stay safe, stay frosty, y'all ❤️ Good weekends all around!
There are plenty, if not most, good and decent men out there who are respectful and treat not only women well but everyone around them. but they dont end up in the news or even being mentioned. They dont get talked about or even remembered.
Sure some men are terrible but IMO and experience, i wouldn't blame it on their gender. Its more a personality thing
I'm kind of proud of our team of guys at work. We have had a couple of women work with us in the past but its rare. The dudes at work dont shout comments, dont wolf whistle, dont harass women. I dont understand why its so hard for others not to be complete morons. In fact one or two have called out the behaviour of others.
Some industries are better than others. I work in a situation where I work with multiple crews. Some are great where everybody just acts like people and... some are shit where if they get a fem-presenting person on random call from the hall they act like they are radioactive and chuck them back in the call out pool unfailingly at day's end.
I see a lot of bad power dynamics at play regularly. The thing I found the most telling on a crew is the treatment pretty girls get over the plain or unattractive ones. If it seems like the guys are just generally more attentive to the pretty ones and not making an effort through be sociable more generally and not rewarding actual merit - or if a crew tends to keep the same guys and the girls keep cycling out then chances are good there's shit going on under the surface that the girls are too afraid to talk about until they learn you're trustworthy enough to vent to.
Isn't this just fear-mongering? This comic implies that every single time that someone rejects a man that man is going to do something bad. I'm not going to deny the fact that there are men that are unhinged but this is nothing but a man-hating comic.
- Over half of women in the USA have experienced sexual violence
- 1/4 of women have been raped or had someone try to rape them
- 1/3 of women have been sexually harassed in a public setting.
- The leading cause of death of pregnant Americans is murder
There's a good reason why we're cautious.
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html
Hey, go pet an alligator.
Studies show most alligators have no carnivorous intentions towards humans, and usually just want to get away. So probably most of the time they’ll just run off at worst. Maybe once in a while they might try biting back to remove a limb, but surely that won’t happen every single time.
I read that comic much more literally and it think this is true in general. We see something in the news frequently and it can color our whole life. Yea, too many women have experienced an outburst from some rejected guy. Men’s mental health surely is a problem our society needs to do something about. However a random conversation is safe for most people most of the time. I believe women don’t need to live in fear but I’m biased just like in the comic. I like to think both of us want the news to focus on accuracy rather than simple fright or outrage
When I was still with my last partner, we were open: she was dating as was I.
She DID do the, "hey, you're nice but I'm just not feeling it" to a couple people she met and they were absolutely shitty about it. If it wasn't a comment about her being a "stuck up bitch" it was something else. A couple harassed her via text for days afterwords before she blocked them. This was probably half the people she met.
Nowadays if I meet a woman I totally get if they don't want to connect outside of an app before meeting and I don't think they're (necessarily) assholes if I get ghosted. People's behavior has made this sort of thing necessary so I try not to take it personally.
So yeah, all you saying this doesn't happen... hate to be this guy, but it totally happens. Listen to women every once in a while
I want to remind people of a different advice that similarly gets people into bad situations:
"The worst that can happen, is they say no. Go shoot your shot"
Yeah, that's the worst that you think may happen. The worst that can happen is you misjudged the situation and now you're making someone fear for their safety, and you're a horrible creep in the eyes of anyone they talk to. You may get into trouble with your employer, friends, family, you really don't know. And you only have yourself to blame. And don't underestimate the effects of shame (as in: feeling guilty about something bad you did)
I'm not saying flirting is never permissible, but you should set boundaries based on the perspective of the other as well. The advice "worst case, they say no" is not at all asking the question how the other would feel being approached in this way. They may have more to lose than you do
As a woman I think a much better approach is “if it’s an appropriate situation go ahead and flirt, but pay attention to if she flirts back. And most importantly trust her words over her behavior.”
I’m not attracted to men, but I don’t mind them hitting on me in appropriate situations. I hate that I get asked out at work (not even public facing). Hell, there’s one man who I knew socially who hit on me, noticed I wasn’t reciprocating, then stopped and became platonically friendly instead. That made me trust him quite a bit actually.
So, girls need to make the first move.
The media cherrypicks for max drama. Your fear is their feast. So you might want to take what they say with a grain of salt.
You are 10000x more likely to get hit by a car than bludgeoned by an incel.
If I'm ever single again, I'm not dating anymore. I'm done with this shit.
Well this subs gone down hill real quick when the male haters start coming out the woodwork. Yo everyone most people aren't like this...most men aren't like this. Woman are as capable as men to do fucked up shit in relationships. Time to leave this sub.
If your reaction to "Men can be threatening to women." Is "Wow all men are murderers I guess we can't talk to them anymore thanks feminism." You're probably a little too emotional for internet access.
Never approach a woman under any circumstances lest you run the risk of unintentionally making her fear for her life, gotcha. Just ignore women unless they approach you first. They're scared of you because you're a member of the dangerous sex, and that's just all there is to it.
sees posts
Seems reasonable, yes, men are more likely to be aggressive / dangerous.
sees comments
...anyone wanna make a purplepilldebate community?
When their research to find that one "This strategy is guaranteed to get you a date!" Doesn't play out the way it's promised
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