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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Bro the main objection to Orch-OR is that the brain is too warm for Quatnum stuff to happen there, and then they found Quantum stuff in the brain.... So... not sure how it's not suggestive of the reality of Orch-OR

Edit: Btw, I don't know where you're getting the idea that Orch-OR is "Trying to throw out Quantum Mechanics and replace it with something else", considering that it's dependent upon Quantum Mechanics, and we have demonstrated that "Quantum Biology" is a thing in plants - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-it-comes-to-photosynthesis-plants-perform-quantum-computation/ and in birds - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01725-1

So why not the brain?

[-] self@awful.systems 21 points 7 months ago

it’s very important to me that you don’t type the words “Blake Stacey” into a search engine while explaining quote unquote Quatnum stuff to them

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it’s very important to me that you don’t type the words “Blake Stacey” into a search engine while explaining quote unquote Quatnum stuff to them

randoms from /all wandering into the vale of sneers: https://www.buttersafe.com/2008/10/23/the-detour/

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

many such cases!

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Oh I see... I didn't realize you were trying to tell me I was talking to Blake Stacey or that he was respected in Quantum Mechanics. I completely misinterpreted what you were trying to tell me. I blame it on the inability of text to properly convey sarcasm.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

you couldn't even be affronted with wit? dire

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I had mis-interpreted the comment to along the lines of something like "You're just copying and pasting what you heard of Spirit Science aren't you?"

My most humble apologizes. Maybe I just wasn't paying hard enough attention.

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 17 points 7 months ago

Kludging an "objective reduction" process into the dynamics is throwing out quantum mechanics and replacing it with something else. And because Orch-OR is not quantum mechanics, every observation that a quantum effect might be biologically important somewhere is irrelevant. Orch-OR isn't "quantum biology", it's pixie-dust biology.

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