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The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday that would force President Joe Biden to send weapons to Israel, seeking to rebuke the Democrat for delaying bomb shipments as he urges Israel to do more to protect civilians during its war with Hamas.

The Israel Security Assistance Support Act was approved 224 to 187, largely along party lines. Sixteen Democrats joined most Republicans in voting yes, and three Republicans joined most Democrats in opposing the measure.

The act is not expected to become law, but its passage underscored the deep U.S. election-year divide over Israel policy as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government seeks to wipe out militants who attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing around 1,200 people and seizing 253 hostages, according to Israeli tallies.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

So we can definitely say Republicans support genocide harder than Democrats, right? Like this whole debate is over, right? Right?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Was that ever a serious debate?

Yes. Republicans are worse.

Doesn’t make Biden “good”. This isn’t a hallmark whodunnit.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I was told once on here that Trump would be better for the Palestinians because if Trump was in office the Democrats would fight it harder. Which is the dumbest logic I've ever heard in my life.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

. . . yeah. that is pretty dumb.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The serious debate is defeating trump. I think that’s the only, actual, debate.

Constantly shitting on Biden and discouraging participation is not helpful. And it is constant.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

So at what point does Biden cross a line for you?

At what point is lessor of two evils evil enough to say “maybe we find someone else,”?

I would have thought genocide, but whatever. Guess we get to be the bad guys.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

What point? When there’s more than six months between now and the collapse of democracy in America.

How - how? - do you expect to find and run somebody else? Alien invasion, okay. Time-skip-wormhole-dealy, I could see that. But in real life? Not bloody likely.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

What a convenient excuse to support a genocide.

[-] Huschke@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe not here, but on other bigger social media sites it was definitely the narrative.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 4 months ago

So then there is no excuse for Biden to take a harder stance against Israel since it's a partisan issue right?

[-] arin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Why only 2 choices? We need a proper left party and not corporate fake Democrat

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago

I feel like we've had this particular conversation several times lately in the public sphere. There can only be two parties in the presidential race. You'll have to co-opt one of them from within to effect change.

[-] eskimofry@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

40 is definitely higher than 10 but if its a failing score then you still deserve criticism. the debate was never about republicans. It's asinine to claim that criticism of Biden and democrats is automatically "Both sides are the same" material

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Mmmmm... Supporting genocide is sort of like being pregnant... You either are or you aren't. There's no acceptable level of supporting genocide. Or apartheid... Or pretty much anything Israel has done to the Palestinian people in the last 75ish years

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not even entirely sure the Republicans would be terribly bothered by that characterization.

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