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Pay your employees a living wage
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There's lots to unpack here.
I'm not defending tipping as the way it should be, only that this is the way it is. Any one coming over to the US and not tipping to "make a statement" isn't hurting the restaurants, they're hurting the workers. And while we rightly expect US tourists to respect the customs of countries to which they travel, we should also expect the same of tourists to the US, at least those customs that affect the workers.
These tourists will "make a statement" for these couple of weeks, giving business/money to the restaurants but none to the staff, then leave and nothing will have changed except the bank account balances of the staff. If they wanted to make a statement, they'd seek out restaurants which already more closely aligned with their position.
Of course. Practically every other restaurant in USA is charging much lower prices with their much lower wages.
Remove that from the equation (make them all pay actual human wages for people so that they can live in houses and so forth), and no restaurant in USA can do that. Problem solved.
Somehow, restaurants ALL OVER THE EARTH can stay open without tipping.
Figure it out
USA resident here.
The only way it'll work is making tip culture illegal.
Raising minimum wage and undoing the underpaid tippers law.
There's a special law that allows restaurants to pay something like $2/hr and expect them to get tips. Sure there is a clause for owners to cover the rest to match minimum wage but that's still BS.
Again. Tip culture won't go away until it's made to by law.
It started out at bribery for better service at restaurants damnit. Then somehow got morphed into a law to allow owners to pay thier staff less. What. The. Fuck. Capitalism.
What's worse. Carry out places all have tip prompts. A tip for what? Putting my donut in a bag? That's literally your only job.
I never tip anywhere unless I sit down at a place to eat and actually recieve a restaurant experience. Someone cooks a meal and a waiter checks in on me.
Call me cheap or an asshole but I'm not tipping at any takeout spot.
Worse, it started out as a way to not pay non-whites a decent wage while ensuring they must act servile to get by.
I too wish we lived in that reality in the US, but we don’t. Any more than we use the metric system or have universal healthcare. Maybe one day.
But today, ask anyone in a tipped position if they’d rather work in a restaurant and get paid a flat “livable” wage and they’d say no. So if they don’t want the system to change and obviously the restaurant owners don’t either, you can’t really advocate for the system to change saying it’s on their behalf.
other countries still have tipping. it's just not necessary to survive.
I'd gladly swap if I got an actually livable wage.
Serving is far from the worst thing i've done for $20/hr. The problem is that 'eliminating tipping' means i'd make $7-12 per hour, which wouldn't even pay rent.
This is 100% true, even if people dont like it
It's 100% false, even if you don't like it.
(see the rest of planet Earth for examples to contrary)
Nobody is saying they like that tipping is what it is in the US, just that it exists and that not participating in no way harms anyone other than the workers themselves. There's nothing false about that.
Absolutely no clue why anybody wouldn't like it, other than just being stubborn and not listening.
A general unwillingness to accept that any issue may be more complex than a paper thin façade.
"What's the best way to oppose this anachronistic holdover of Jim Crow? Why, to punish the oppressed, of course!"
Aside from agreeing with your statement, I'll also never not upvote comments which use diacritical marks correctly.
Unionise and change things, or keep whining about being stiffed. Take your pick.
Maybe. But those doing the stiffing are still cheap assholes doing it for their pocketbook, not the betterment of the workers.
People don't stiff waiters here. That's how you get spit in your food (to name the least offensive thing they'll do).
Workers protect their own. And good for them, because management certainly doesn't give a shit about them.
Having been in the industry for 25+ years, I've never seen anything like that. Besides, how would staff know they are getting stiffed before the bill is paid.
Yeah I think that's an anti-worker stereotype used to characterize workers as greedy, violent, and spiteful.
Most of the people in foodservice i've known ended up there because they love food. They enjoy handing someone a great meal or suggesting the perfect cocktail to pair with a dish. They aren't going to ruin someone's food like that because they genuinely care about their profession and craft.
I think it's a pro-worker stereotype, in that it gives people a self-interested reason not to be an asshole or stiff their waiters.
I worked in a restaurant for many years and i can’t tell if you all are bullshit.
The Europeans arent making aome grand statement about tipping cukture,mtheyre just rucking cheap.
no, i just don't give money to beggars, That's not the same as being cheap.
Tipping at US rsatauranrs are simply how servers are paid. If you decide to eat oit in the US, tips are part of the social contract for table snd bar service.
no, it is not
You are incorrect.
learn your own laws
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This is just showing the cruelty of the European assholes who thought it was a great idea to visit our besieged country with the intention of enjoying themselves.
Don't force to take a picture with ICE, guys. Or visit the fucking concentration camps. Buy a MAGA hat before you go.
The thumbnail above is fucking accurate. The"chad" guy looks like he's a rich, European prick that's had work done. The kind of guy that moves into an LA mansion and pretends he's humble.
Fuck these trash people. Power to the fucking workers. Down with these scabs.
They exist, but I feel like I could count all of the one's I've seen in my lifetime on one hand, and even then people usually still tip out of habit and it generally feeling weird not to.