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While she was far from being an ideal candidate, and the Dems most definitely fumbled the entire election, let's not forget the massive Russian bot campaign amplified by the clueless tankies, spreading that bullshit "Kamala is for genocide" crap... which was loud enough to turn a large chunk of average voters away from even voting. If not for that incredibly successful propaganda campaign, Kamala would've won, just by a smidge, but she would've come out on top.
She refused to even call Israel an apartheid state, let alone use the G word. She specifically said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden did. That was her position. Can't blame bot farms for her actual position.
Not wanting to say something is hardly the same as supporting it, though, isn't it?
But that's besides the point. The very same people who took her silence as support of genocide, implied that somehow Trump would be better.
But hey, it all worked out, right? Y'all assholes have a clean conscience not voting for someone who didn't say the magic words, because it's so much fucking better right now! Oh wait, it fucking isn't because Trump isn't just dependant on the money Israel funnels into the defense companies of the US, he's literally in their fucking pocket, doing whatever the fuck Bibi wants to get out of jail free.
Perfection is the enemy of good, as this example has shown. Kamala wasn't a perfect candidate, and yes, the Dems should've picked someone better, BUT WAS IT REALLY FUCKING WORTH IT to allow Trump to won just to rub the DNC's nose into the mess they made, and essentially starting WW3 within a year of his election? Does it soothe your soul that you didn't vote for someone you were TOLD by the enemies of your state is a genocide supporter, and by that, allowing someone who directly supports genocide AND raped women - including underage ones - to win? Did you win this fucking purity test? Enjoy it then. Enjoy being king on the hill of rubble. And once the dust settles you can get a fancy pin, showing everyone how you're directly responsible for the shit the whole world is in.
In most cases, sure.
Not when it's genocide. Calling out and condemning genocide should be a no brainer.
That's not how logic works.
Magic isn't real.
And of course I voted for her. Calling her a shit candidate who deserved to loose, because she was too stupid to make a compelling case against a felon and rapist, doesn't imply anything about how I voted.
Again that's not how logic works.
She chose that silence over you, bro. All she had to do was tell Israel to fuck off. Instead, they gave missiles to a pitbull incarnated as a country.
But sure, it's everyone else's fault. Not the ones that were in charge of the country, and the military, and their own platform. Believe it or not, Kamala is her own person and can actually decide to do things, and she still decided to shit all over our hopes and dreams.
You guys treat her like some force of nature or something. Temperature and wind humidity hitting just the right spot and suddenly, Israel gets everything it wants and the election is lost.
Given I'm not even American, nor do I live in that shithole, she hardly chose silence over me. But please go on.
Are the "tankies" in the room with you right now?
Yes, users like Ensign_Crab spent all day everyday screaming the "Harris is genocidal" bs every day 2 years ago. And they're still out there all day, every day being a shill for the Putin aligned green party and is remarkably silent on the atrocities of Republicans.
If the election depends on people outside your base mincing their words about your candidate maybe your candidate just sucks.
Cool, so now we have a genocide in Gaza AND we're threatening to genocide Iran. Thats so much better than what Harris was going to do.
EnsignCrab is still fighting the good fight because people like you are still simping for zionist genociders. You've learned nothing by that last betrayal of the voters and epic failure to win what should have been an easy election. You'll 100% try to lose us the next election too.
And trump being in office stopped the genocide right? That was your end goal, right? To stop the genocide.
Or did the genocide in Gaza worsen and now we're threatening genocide on Iran? Do you think Harris would be vowing to destroy an entire civilization?
My goal was to end the inevitability of this and future genocides yeah. Lets get to universal human rights and destroy those who would oppose it.
Big difference from what you are saying. And you are whining to keep the status quo going.
And letting trump win got us closer to that goal?
Its going to plan, yes. If we cant champion the most basic human rights globally and only our own wealthy or Israeli interests, then let it all burn. None of it works for you anyway. Theres no other avenues open to us.
The centrists will just string it along and it'll end up in the same place, just after way more murder and war crimes. Lets just rip the bandaid off quickly.
So we're ending genocide by letting turbo genocide happen? By letting Israel kill even more people even faster? By enacting our own genocide in Iran? I guess there can't be a genocide if they're all gone then.
If you pretend the centrist way leads to less genocide then you're not being honest about the history of what was done under Biden, and I get that. You have to get through a massive level of cognitive dissonance to acknowledge that Biden was a genocider and Harris was about to be one. I dont like it either. But neither repubs or centrist dems will refuse an AIPAC paycheck will they. The apr 9 DNC vote proved that conclusively.
So both parties have to change or fail-- neither can be supported. THAT is the way to end genocide sponsorship in the US --because trump is actively burning the government to the ground and its on borrowed time. The dems are closest to being able to turn around, but the only way they do that is if they face the guaranteed threat of losing the next election. We're not playing chicken here with any intention of flinching at the last minute. They stop their genocidal ways or they dont get support and this place continues being taken apart by the magats. Its the only way forward. We're pretty far past letting this play out over time, dont you think?
If you dont like this, whats your idea to stop the genocide? write letters to dem centrist interns, I bet?
I'm sure the people of Gaza and Iran are appreciative of your efforts to prevent their extermination by ramping up the extermination.
You've really convinced me blackbelt352: to stop genocide, I will get in line behind the DNC's plan to support genocide.
You already made your decision. You got in line behind the RNC's plan to accelerate the genocide.
Your girl Harris supported the genocide.
And your boy trump supported it even harder.
Well look at you, finally admitting Harris is a genocide supporter. We've made progress.
I never denied her involvement. I'm still saying trump is accelerating Israel's genocide of Palestine, and theyre expanding it to Iran, oh and Jordan as well. Now I dont have a degree in mathematics, but last I checked, 3 genocides is more than 1 genocide and 3 genocides is much harder to stop than 1 genocide.
I did however express that her position was not going to worsen what was already happening the way trump clearly has worsened everything for everyone.
Thats a creation of your own bias. Trump is a war criminal for sure, but Biden was as bad or worse. Both presidents let Israel do whatever they wanted with impunity, and time they wanted, to whomever they wanted, all with US bombs. But Biden began it and most of the casualties so far happened on his watch, under a democratic party banner no less.
So I'm supposed to believe that going from supplying Israel for 1 genocide is worse than supplying Israel for 2 genocides and engaging in our own genocide in a third nation?
You can fuck aaaaaalllllll the way off, you're no leftist if you want to let trump do even worse genocide.
What really gets me is that people were surprised the VP of the US wouldn’t be against genocide.
It really speaks to the failure of the education system.
She was suggesting we carry on with 70 years of foreign policy, suddenly that makes her an outlier.
Exactly. If kids had learned anything they’d know it would take at least another 70 years to change the government’s mind.
So getting trump elected stopped the genocide, right? Since that is the end goal, the genocide ended. How's that going? I guess now we have genocide in Gaza AND threatening it in Iran.
That’s not at all what I’m saying and you’re just reacting emotionally.
You can say it in less words that you sucked down Russian propaganda so bad, you still haven't accepted the reality of it...
Conveniently it's always some outside force that causes Democrats to lose, never the Democrats themselves.
talk about not accepting reality...
Fuck Russia, Slava Ukraini. Why did Biden and Top Cop Kamala fail to have Trump tried for the treason that he committed?
Do you think she won’t be vulnerable to the same strategy a second time?
Please point out where I expressed any kind of support for her running, or where I implied that she should run in any manner or form. Please do.
Because I'm fairly certain I pointed out that she wasn't a good candidate, that the Dems should've picked someone better.
I'm also fairly certain that I made it super clear that the main issue was indeed that she was the main candidate (and that she replaced Biden too late but I think that's obvious). That was deterring enough for most. But even then, there were enough people who would've voted for the 'not Trump' candidate even if it was a literal sack of sentient horse shit, for that candidate to win.
However, your sentiment is wrong here. Absolutely no candidate is immune to this kind of Russian meddling, because no Democrat that would make it onto the ballot would want to upset the moneymen - the people behind the defense companies that make the big bucks supplying Israel with weapons, so that that rogue apartheid genocide state can keep poking its much more powerful neighbours.
The problem is that people seemingly lack critical thinking, and consider Kamala not coming out against Israel somehow worse than Trump directly supporting it. I mean the core of the problem is that the US political system is geared towards a two-party approach, which means there will never be a good candidate for people with good conscience, so it's not about voting for a good candidate, but preventing the worst from entrenching himself as king. But hey if you want that chip on your shoulder that you didn't vote for the one who didn't say the word genocide, and by that allowed the one who will do anything to appease the ones committing genocide, so yay, you did so good!
I just think it's funny how in their version of reality "tankies", a group with zero political representation in America, have any kind of sway over moderate voters.
It's truly QAnon levels of delusional.
A lot of people on many sides are terminally online. If you ask the median voting-age US citizen why they didn't vote, the only answer they can give is "I just don't really care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
I choose to read that as "neither party speaks to my situation" rather than the indifference being an accident. There are a lot of reasons to care with how politics affect, well, everything, but that doesn't mean parties are involving the masses. No, they're actually doing an excellent job alienating them.
And that's just the non-voters. The only reason people even vote is to make things less shitty, not because they feel particularly moved by either party, which proves how alienation affects even committed voters.
🌈 Both can be true 🌈
Let's actually talk through this instead of jumping to accusing me of being fascist. Because I'm betting we agree on more than you think, I just hate the dismissal of the complex factors that caused the shitstorm that got Trump elected again.
Democrats are complicit in enabling genocide in Palestine. Full stop. We should not support Israel, and the fact that that's the default position even in the supposed "moderate" party is an utter disgrace.
That said, it's possible for more than one genocide to happen at once, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say that that's worse than one genocide abetted politicians that are at least more prone to influence from the electorate than the default Republican position of "fuck you if you disagree with us, we'll kill you, too." Now we have open and direct threats of genocide from our own state against Iran, not to mention the trans genocide happening at home.
The "strong and weak" argument does apply to the same people who claim that the Democrats shouldn't have lost but also deserve to lose for enabling Israel. The fact of the matter is it took both for the world's most prolific child rapist to become president. The Democrats had to fumble the bag in the most depraved way possible, and that was openly and actively exploited by foreign actors to confuse voters at home into thinking there was no point in voting. There was, and we're learning that the hard way now.