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[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 29 points 2 months ago

This is divisive rhetoric.

Remember our shared enemy is the ruling class.

Both political parties serve the ruling class.

Do NOT let them divide US.

Apes together strong.

[-] null@lemmy.org 46 points 2 months ago

bOtH sIdEs BaD is a tool used to sanewash the right

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

“There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt — until recently … and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties.”

― Gore Vidal

[-] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's all you have. Still 2 options. Work with it instead of excluding your only chance

-Me

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

One hand washes the other. They are different hands but they work together to sanewash each other. Biden sat on terrabytes of evidence but didn't go after the pedos because it implicates Israel. Boths sides are bad, but in appreciaticely different ways

[-] null@lemmy.org 8 points 2 months ago

Biden sitting on the pedo files is a symptom of Dems caring more about decorum than they do results. It's part of why they keep getting obliterated by Trump.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Biden didn't sit on the pedo files. It's the DOJ. Not the president.

[-] prole 3 points 2 months ago

Oh please. He appointed Merrick Garland to head the DOJ. "Investigate pedophiles" could have easily been one of the requirements for him to nominate

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[-] null@lemmy.org 2 points 2 months ago

Lmao tell that to the current administration. It goes back to what I was just saying, Trump uses his DOJ as a tool in a way Biden never did. Not that Trump actually got the results he wanted, but that's beside the point.

[-] nile_istic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

So your argument is "why didn't Biden become a dictator first"?

[-] null@lemmy.org 2 points 2 months ago

Not sure how you got that other than arguing in bad faith. Democrats are paralyzed into inaction as Republicans fling shit at the wall until something sticks. This paralysis is why a person like Biden would sit on those files for four years, fearing he would appear partisan if he pushed for their release.

[-] nile_istic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

He didn't "sit on the files". They were under DOJ's purview, because there used to be three separate branches of government that checked and balanced one another. I'm not saying the DOJ under Biden didn't absolutely drop the ball, because they did. I'm just saying that Trump's weaponizing of the DOJ is antithetical not to "decorum", but to democracy. Biden doing it first would have constituted executive overreach just as much as Trump doing it now.

[-] null@lemmy.org 3 points 2 months ago

Which branch of the government does the DOJ belong to? Who's at the top of that branch?

[-] nile_istic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Fair point. But there did used to be three branches that checked one another. The reason DJT can effectively do whatever he wants through the DOJ is because those checks and balances are no longer in place. If Biden had tried to do with DOJ what Trump has done (which I still would argue that he absolutely should not have), the USSC would have had something to say about it—similar to how they checked him when he (with Sec of Ed) attempted to forgive roughly half a trillion dollars of student debt.

To be clear, I'm not saying Biden (or his executive branch or the 117th congress or the USSC) was effective or.. idk, good? They absolutely weren't. I'm saying that for Biden to weaponize various departments and agencies (even for the arguable benefit of Americans), he'd have had to have engaged in the same slide into authoritarianism that Trump has.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Just because our current administration tells lies doesn't mean you need to believe them or expect better. You're being part of the problem by not understanding how the mechanism of our system works.

Trump has continued to break the law in every way possible and your defense is "why didn't other presidents break the law?"

Gee. Lemme fuckin think...

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Not investigating rapists and insurrectionists is decorum?

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

It is for any democrat who makes it into significant power, yes. Gotta work within that system for slow gradual improvements that can be easily undone.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 months ago

Decorum is what they say publicly but let's be real, the results the Dems care about is campaign funding. They don't stand up to AIPAC or their extralegal operations because they're afraid of their money.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Both sides, Republicans and Democrats, ARE THE RIGHT. Both are pro war. Both are pro billionaire. Both are pro Israel. Both are pro genocide. Leftists have been screaming for years about the rise of fascism and were ignored for years. Now we have been proven right, again and again, and now are telling you, the democrats are 100% compromised, there is no saving them, and both parties must be dissolved. Now please, stop dividing the working class, if you want justice for the Epstein files, if you want this country to stop waging imperialist wars of aggression, if you want to stop fascism, we need to STAND TOGETHER FIRMLY against the ruling class.

[-] null@lemmy.org 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I ain't standing with Nazis, dawg. You can both sides all you want, but one side is fucking Nazis.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, THE RULING CLASS, they're the fucking nazis. Wake the fuck up, the Democrats are ALSO nazis.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago

We're already divided, and this comic is just making fun of those who put partisanship above all else so I don't see it as especially divisive. Moreover, there's no reason to seek any sort of "common cause" with the right, because they lick the boots of the ruling class and create division by attacking minority groups. Trying to find common ground with reactionary elements of the working class just dilutes the message and alienates their victims.

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[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

It's not division to say we shouldn't allow pedophiles to rule us. Saying that is divisive rather than accepting the unbelievable events that are here is more divisive than a comic.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This comic is INTENTIONALLY VAGUE. Read the comments and you will discover people arguing whatever they project onto it.

It is vague intentionally because the purpose of propaganda like this to cause division and arguments among the working class. For example, I pointed that out, and you came to argue for your preferred interpretation.

Do you seriously think that I'm saying we should ally with pedophiles? The pedophiles ARE the ruling class. They're the Epstein class.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

This comic is INTENTIONALLY VAGUE

MAGA is more disgusted by democrats than child rapists. I'm not sure what's vague about it.

It's like saying a sign on a door says PUSH and you think that's a vague description.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's not vague at all. How do you perceive this as vague?

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[-] Johanno@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago

Not american.

But while both parties are corrupt you can choose to use the better of the worse.

Like yeah eating bland dough sold as a steak is bad, but eating literal shit sold as a steak is worse. Both are bad, but one is not like the other.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 8 points 2 months ago

The trick is, it's not just that they are shit labeled as food. It's that most Americans have never seen the steak they pretend to be, so they look at anyone else as crazy when they are told what they're eating isn't filet mignon and no one else wants it. They have no frame of reference to even understand what food is in that metaphor.

[-] Skv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

US has like 5 parties, but population is too stupid to read the ballots and use the fucking internet to do the research instead of just eating propaganda fed to them by all mainstream media bought by the biggest 2.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

No, I'm sorry, but the Democrats supported and enabled a genocide. We are fucking done with the lies of "harm reduction" which are promised all the while the democrats race to the right. Wake the fuck up, and realize YOU ARE WORKING CLASS. THEY ARE RULING CLASS. Stop doing their propaganda for them.

[-] nile_istic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You're not being realistic. There is no "working class vs ruling class" when a portion of the working class doesn't see the rest as human. It's not just that we sane Americans are unwilling to side with Nazis to take down billionaires (though certainly that is true); it's also that someone who calls me a removed is never going to stand and fight next to my black ass. The only way you get the entire working class to engage is if they are willing to stand with us, and that's not gonna happen by us welcoming Nazis into the fold, it'll happen when they, ya know, stop being Nazis. Even if what you're saying is possible, you're preaching to the wrong side.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

I am not urging you to side with nazis. I am urging you to recognize that the Democrats themselves are ALSO nazis. They will side with fascists, every time.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

where have you been THE EU /usa have been supporting israel for decades, only because of '23, with t the elections flaring up in 2024 is when people noticed, you are actually falling for the propaganda yourself, if you only noticed that gaza/israel conflict suddenly appeared because biden dint do anything

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

I've been fighting against zionism for literally decades.

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

Wake the fuck up, and realize YOU ARE WORKING CLASS. THEY ARE RULING CLASS. Stop doing their propaganda for them.

Yep.

This thread is full of folks willing to bet that the spineless overlords will change enough to save them from the openly authoritarian overlords.

[-] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

If there's a realistic choice beyond "Corporate Whores" and "Corporate Whores who also want to institute Christian Sharia law in the US", and you still support the whores, then yes, I will be right there front and center to call those people scumbags all day long.

However, everyone knows that is not the case in US politics within the electoral mechanisms we're currently operating under. Through that lens, being the person that knowingly votes for some niche candidate that they know isn't going to win any election against those two, knowing full well that by doing that you're making it that much easier for the Christofascists to scrape out a win and continue pushing this morality horseshit on the people...no, you don't get a pass. Not anymore.

The cost of a dozen eggs is of no fucking consequence when LGBTQ+ society is under assault. The price of a gallon of gas pales in comparison to the fact that ICE is out there literally wiping their ass with the constitution every day and the courts have no recourse to stop them. The fact that your property taxes may be a point or two higher or lower means precisely dick when you're watching a war be instigated and fought that nobody wants solely to distract the people from the fact that our president belongs on a sex offender registry so his movements can be monitored for the rest of his disgusting life.

I haven't considered myself a supporter of the Democratic party since they sidelined Bernie, but if my choice is them, or someone that thinks the things I listed above are just fuckin great, you're goddamn right Im going to pick them. Because at least with them we can stop the fucking bleeding. With the other guys, we're just counting down until someone decides to trigger a nuke and once that happens elections as a concept are going to seem quaint let alone all the other luxuries we enjoy like running water or a functioning power grid.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

Just stop defending the Democrats. They're more than willing to throw trans people under the bus, they supported, enabled and armed a genocide, they support wars, they support terrorism. You can vote for whoever the fuck you want, I don't care, but you'll never get a better world if you "vote blue no matter who", you'll get fascism.

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[-] Skv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

There always has been - 3rd and 4th parties.

"BuT tHeY hAvE nO aGeNdA" - fucking good. No agenda is better than perpetuating a century-long, systemic corruption by flipping the same rotten coin. 3rd party that's unaffiliated with the 2 shitheads has 4 years to come up and execute a plan while the rotten 2 seeth and stare. House and congress need an upheaval and and few turnovers as well.

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Through that lens, being the person that knowingly votes for some niche candidate that they know isn't going to win any election against those two, knowing full well that by doing that you're making it that much easier for the Christofascists to scrape out a win and continue pushing this morality horseshit on the people...no, you don't get a pass. Not anymore.

So when do we hold the democrats accountable for being openly detestable, if not when the they've handed the whole country over?

Our only chance at this not getting worse is a likeable candidate. We know democrats are committed to never running one.

What's the answer here?

Yes, the Democratic party running a true populist is the answer sure. We all know that's not going to happen.

The US Democratic plans to continue to eek out loses from the jaws of inevitable victory, and enjoy ongoing campaign funding and unaccountability, as their reward.

This, what we have today, is literally their whole platform. They helped plan this.

When do we hold them accountable for that? Is is still too soon?

[-] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So when do we hold the democrats accountable

When weve got the Christofascists in jail where they fuckin belong.

If someone comes at me with a gun while someone else is trying to set my house on fire, im going to focus on the dude with the gun, then deal with the fire. Theyre both a threat, but one is more of a threat than the other.

What you guys are basically wanting to do, to continue the metaphor, is go running around trying to find the hose while youre being shot at. And you know, thats fine, you do you, player. But dont act like its not completely natural and justifiable if most people, like me, would put their energy into stopping the bullets before giving even half a shit about the fire. The fire will have to be dealt with once the bullets stop. The fire will be dealt with, but there are bigger threats right now.

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think we're mostly on the same page, you just can still trust a Democrat, I guess?

Let's extend your analogy, though: the Democrats are shooting too, just not directly at me, at this moment. There's plenty dead at their hands.

I still might rally behind a Democrat to stop an authoritarian, one more fucking time.

And I might not.

We did this dance.

Democrats do not stop the shooting.

I am strongly inclined to trust a total stranger over an established Democrat.

I am not alone in that.

Even if a Democrat cared to save any of us, I do not believe that the Democratic party has the remaining influence to make any difference.

The Maga crowd got something right: the average Democrat politician is spineless, broken and unwilling or unable to disobey orders from a secret cabal of pedophiles.

If we could wake the Maga types up, they might realize the dumb fucks they're worshipping are part of the same pedophile ring.

[-] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I trust them to not be as bad as the MAGA types. That's why it's the lesser of two evils. I know that they're evil fucks in their own way, believe me.

I want a third choice, I truly do. I've long gotten behind third party candidates, and pulled their lever at the voting booth. I voted for Nader in 2000. I participate in the primaries. But at the end of the day, if my candidate of choice doesn't get nominated, I'm not going to abstain in the general if the choice is between the soulless vampire democrat and the Christofascist MAGAt that is running on a platform of making homosexuality punishable by death. I doubt there is even a majority of people voting for that democrat thinking they're the next FDR, they just know that by not pulling that handle, they're possibly going to give the Christofascist the win. We're choosing the devil we can live with versus the devil we can't.

Unfortunately, until we somehow get legal mechanisms in place that codify the basic human rights of the people the MAGAts are targeting in these fucking purges (that's basically what they are), and solidify the ability of the government to make it literally impossible for this kind of shit to happen going forward, this is what it boils down to. I want election reform, I want ranked choice voting, I want the level of representation to be adjusted so that the number of reps in congress isn't hard locked so that we can have more abilities for niche candidates to achieve the office and break the hold these two parties have, I want publicly funded elections, I want strict rules regarding the media as concerns elections. I have a feeling you and I both have a very similar set of values and ideas as to what constitutes a functional democracy.

All Im trying to say is, don't take people voting for democrats as endorsement of their bullshit. It's not that, believe me, it is not that. It's just the only other realistic alternative, the MAGAt, is so, so much worse, that we have no choice but to hold our nose and do whatever we need to do to prevent that asshole from getting into office...even if that is voting for the lesser of two evils.

[-] webkitten@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

Really cause only under one political party my life as a trans person wasn't being put in danger.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The success of modern fascism has the same root cause as the success of fascism in the 20th century: liberal capitalism. Yes, Democrats are definitely better, and I certainly wouldn't pretend the outcome of an election wouldn't matter, especially for trans homies, but Democrat policies directly create the economic frustration that the MAGA fascists feed on.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

Instructions unclear, formed a new political party whose platform is inclusive of pedos.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago

Both the republicans and democrats have plenty of billionaire pedo connections. The working class do not. This is another class issue - working class kids being abused by wealthy ruling class pedos.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 months ago

Watching Ivanka Trump disassociate when she introduced her child hood room makes me think the rich kids don't exactly escape unscathed. But yeah, they target kids with the promise of changing their circumstances. They exploit the very weaknesses they breed in society.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

should also promote the third party instead of just bashing both sides of the mas party

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