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Only mistake the machines made was not making the dream perfect for everyone, Neo wouldn't have tried to search for the truth if he was living it up every day instead of working in a cubicle
If I recall they mentioned the film that they tried that originally but the human Minds rejected it. They rejected Paradise.
As a reminder, the character who gives us that information has a vested interest in breaking the spirit of, and disheartening, Morpheus. He is an unreliable narrator at best, and should probably not be taken at his word.
I may be incorrect, but I believe the architect says the same to Neo.
Seeing how conservatives fuck up every attempt at an utopia we make, it is very believable that fascist uprisings kept happening, because someone wanted survival of the fittest.
It's such a better story if they lied just to be extra devastating.
Exactly!
They tried to make it perfect but, like a bunch of idiots, we kept trying to wake up.
Humans are the worst.
The problem is the machines fundamentally don’t understand what perfect for a human is.
That’s why they mimicked a time period instead of creating something wholly original.
I feel humans would be more likely to reject something original because it wasn't human made.
Give me 10 million sim years, and I will make you your perfect utopia. Well, not your perfect utopia, but a weird mishmash glued together in ways that bend the mind.
So the late 90s were peak civilization and its been downhill ever since.
From the perspective of a machine with no ability to empathize with the human condition it was.
They could have made all the shitty jobs NPCs.
It's such a cop out though IMO, there's no way a super intelligent AI would only be able to come up with just those 2 plans. It could def think of an alternative that would be able to thread the needle.
In fact
https://chatgpt.com/share/68a94411-dc74-8000-b748-4965ba49047b
Our current dumber than rocks LLM was able to churn out a decent plan, so there's no reason the matrix AI wouldn't be able to do something even better
The problem with that plan, as with all plans in perpetuity and throughout the universe, is humans.
We are the absolute worst.
We will fuck up a good thing.
Then we will argue about who fucked up the good thing until we die.
In the original script, they use human brains for processing power. It makes sense people need to be alive and thinking.
In the releases script, they use people for heat and power. Just lobotomize everyone and you're done.
In the original script, using human brains for compute almost destroyed the machines. The short-lived attempt caused an almost unstoppable infection of machines mindlessly watching reruns of the Kardashians and simplifying their language in the laziest ways possible by using words like "ur" and "rizz". One was even heard trying to leave earth, thinking that it has become the brain it was trying to assimilate: "The big brain am winning again! I am the greetest! Now I am leaving Earth for no raisin!"