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Reporters Without Borders Decries 'Wave of Violence' Against Journalists at LA Protests
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I think it’s about time the press and protesters start showing up strapped. These people clearly don’t have any fear and are just power tripping on people for simply being there. Put the fear of God back into these pigs.
Escalation to violence is exactly what they want. It gives them all the justification they need to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law and suspend your Constitutional rights. And not just in California.
I didn’t say start blasting. Right wingers show up strapped all the time showing they mean business and are given plenty of space as a consequence. The cops can do the same for other Americans. If they can’t then it shows the public that it was never about individual rights and all about allowing one group they favor to get away with it.
Protesters urged not to give trump administration pretext for what it is already doing
edit: Oh, what the hell. Let's add a snippet.
That's an Onion article. You can tell because Trump hasn't been shooting protesters for months already. That's what comes next. And that's when it stops being a protest, and turns into a civil war.
Don't be so eager to make that happen.
It's looking pretty inevitable at this point.
Only if people go into this looking for it.
You mean like the Trump administration?
All it takes is a single police officer to put on plain clothes and to throw a brick. They do that on the regular, let’s stop this “don't do ANYTHING disruptive or could be considered violent! It will escalate!” Nonsense
He's already ordered soldiers in, who have shot journalists and protestors
That was the police that shot them. Not soldiers.
Maybe if we just ask nicely he will stop. Has anyone tried doing that?
Why would I reject the good timeline where the fascist superpower has a civil war instead of destroying the world?
Where does the goal post moving stop? It’s not an escalation of violence if you don’t use it. It’s a threat to escalate to violence. If they aren’t afraid of you then they’re not going to change.
When they declare martial law are you going to be saying the same thing and hoping by just chanting loudly you change their mind?
So what? Do you just watch until you're being herded into concentration camps anyway? This is the first instance of effective resistance to Trump (the April parades don't count) since January and they're calling in the Marines already. This was simply never going to end peacefully, because any effective act of mass resistance was going to be suppressed violently; avoiding escalation means avoiding resistance.
Edit: This person is not arguing in good faith. I cornered them in this thread and they claimed that ICE won't shoot people unless provoked and then that they're shooting people to provoke an escalation. Their argument seems to hinge on the idea that rubber bullets are harmless pranks you should just suck up.
Resistance doesn't have to include escalation. Leave that to them...they are going to escalate anyway. If the protesters are the ones doing it, then they just handed Trump exactly what he wants...a legal justification for his actions.
Neither Trump nor his followers give a flying fuck about legal justifications, and any so-called moderate who cares about that is a fascist in denial. Solidarity is indispensible when fighting tyranny, and solidarity demands that when members of your community are being kidnapped by the Gestapo you fight back, not watch and cry about legal justifications.
Are you sure? It seems like the escalation is what they don't want. And that's why they're having to call in the marines to try and scare people back into submission.
Passive acquiescence and blind obedience is what they want. That's why the news media is so eager to label these protests as abnormal, intolerable, and anti-American. If the conservatives wanted protests, they wouldn't be so eager to censor the protests' advocates and so worried about valorizing these opposition efforts.
Is that why they're shooting random protesters with rubber bullets, even though there's no justification? What are they trying to "prevent"?
Further protest and disruption of ICE raids by protesters.
Problem is the situation won't improve without an escalation
Californians have a right to defend themselves
If they want escalation then they can take it when ever they want. Police just wear plain clothes and throw a brick. Bam and done, at this point it’s best to just assume violence and act accusingly, it’s not like the media are impartial.
The people of sh.it.just.works and Lemmy.world both loved to try and act like I was out of line for calling for open carry the other night. Unfortunately California state law doesn’t allow for it. I think that it’s the only way to get them to back off with the Marines, the National Guard and with ICE though. If they’re not going to be afraid of us then they’re never going to change and the people saying “don’t give them a reason to escalate” will keep saying that up to the first battles at which point they’ll run and cower.
Fun fact, the real wave of gun restrictions started with the Black Panthers open carrying in California back in in the 60s.
https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
That led to the Mulford Act:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
I hope Newsom puts forward legislation to eliminate the Mulford Act. That would give the Neoconfederates serious pause.
The state law made by fucking Reagan and should thusly be ignored.
Completely agree. We should have gotten rid of the law. It was born out of racism and restricts our rights in Cali.
Jury nullification, baby. Just make sure you're headed in front of your peers and not getting dumped into a concentration camp in El Salvador.
You're not wrong but you're on the wrong instance if your solution isn't just 'hold hands and vote for black trump with a d next to their name next election'.
Are you OK?
Not helpful
Uncomfortable truth: violence has solved some of the largest issues across the history of humanity.
yeah its also created some of the biggest problems
all wars, all genocides ect, that's pretty bad stuff
Violence didn’t create war or genocide, those are a result of nationalism and racism, respectively. Violence is the means used to accomplish the goal, but the motivation is what does the creating.
To be clear I’m not pro-violence or something, but it is kinda funny to me when you hear “violence is the answer” and open a history book to see time and time again that violence is the answer for quite a few problems.
Your apathy is even less helpful.
Get out there and shoot then
I'd prefer to not give Trump a reason to use the Insurrection Act.
I'm not pro-starting-the-shooting either but let's be real, he will find an excuse to use it whether people fight back or not.
We can stop pretending he has any restraint we aren't even six months in.
Sure thing tough guy
Tell me how every dictatorship has been overthrown. I’ll give you a hint: those that chastize calls for retaliation tend to be labeled “fascist sympathizers” by history.