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Reporters Without Borders Decries 'Wave of Violence' Against Journalists at LA Protests
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I didn’t say start blasting. Right wingers show up strapped all the time showing they mean business and are given plenty of space as a consequence. The cops can do the same for other Americans. If they can’t then it shows the public that it was never about individual rights and all about allowing one group they favor to get away with it.
Protesters urged not to give trump administration pretext for what it is already doing
edit: Oh, what the hell. Let's add a snippet.
It's looking pretty inevitable at this point.
You mean like the Trump administration?
All it takes is a single police officer to put on plain clothes and to throw a brick. They do that on the regular, let’s stop this “don't do ANYTHING disruptive or could be considered violent! It will escalate!” Nonsense
The expectation that nothing should happen is a fever dream. All your worry is for nothing, what happens will happen, and the only thing you can do is what you can do. If it comes to civil war, that was a decision made by those in power, and is seeming inevitable at this point.
They only people 'wishing for a civil war' are the Trump administration.
"The revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be." - some Heritage Foundation ghoul
You defend yourself, or you die.
He's already ordered soldiers in, who have shot journalists and protestors
That was the police that shot them. Not soldiers.
There's a marginal difference. "Less lethal" rounds are still lethal when they're fired directly at people, particularly if the wounded are denied medical attention and are subjected to further police violence after they've been injured.
Why would I reject the good timeline where the fascist superpower has a civil war instead of destroying the world?
Fucking lol
Something tells me you'd be right there with them
Maybe if we just ask nicely he will stop. Has anyone tried doing that?
Where does the goal post moving stop? It’s not an escalation of violence if you don’t use it. It’s a threat to escalate to violence. If they aren’t afraid of you then they’re not going to change.
When they declare martial law are you going to be saying the same thing and hoping by just chanting loudly you change their mind?
So what? Do you just watch until you're being herded into concentration camps anyway? This is the first instance of effective resistance to Trump (the April parades don't count) since January and they're calling in the Marines already. This was simply never going to end peacefully, because any effective act of mass resistance was going to be suppressed violently; avoiding escalation means avoiding resistance.
Edit: This person is not arguing in good faith. I cornered them in this thread and they claimed that ICE won't shoot people unless provoked and then that they're shooting people to provoke an escalation. Their argument seems to hinge on the idea that rubber bullets are harmless pranks you should just suck up.
Neither Trump nor his followers give a flying fuck about legal justifications, and any so-called moderate who cares about that is a fascist in denial. Solidarity is indispensible when fighting tyranny, and solidarity demands that when members of your community are being kidnapped by the Gestapo you fight back, not watch and cry about legal justifications.
Look, if your strategy and tactics prevent you from protecting your own neighbors you've already lost the plot.
My point is that continuing that is the escalation you're talking about. Consider the following situation: ICE comes for person X and group Y shows up. Y refuse to hand over X, at which point ICE threatens to shoot them if they don't comply. What should Y do here? Hand over X? Peacefully get shot? Shoot back?
You do realize they're shooting protesters right as we speak right? That's literally why we're having this conversation.
Good job moving the goalposts, I almost didn't notice it.
-you.
I now have every reason to believe you're not debating in good faith given that you just fucking lied so I'll disengage, but before I leave you do realize that they're sending people to the hospital right as we speak right? Rubber bullets can hurt, they can blind and, especially at close range, they can fucking kill.
If everyone is reading this far down, this person has lost the plot the moment they said rubber bullets are "non-lethal". To repeat myself, this is blatantly untrue; they're called "less-lethal ammunitions" because they can still kill you. You can still die if a cop shoots you with a rubber bullet. Stay safe out there everyone.
Are you sure? It seems like the escalation is what they don't want. And that's why they're having to call in the marines to try and scare people back into submission.
Passive acquiescence and blind obedience is what they want. That's why the news media is so eager to label these protests as abnormal, intolerable, and anti-American. If the conservatives wanted protests, they wouldn't be so eager to censor the protests' advocates and so worried about valorizing these opposition efforts.
Further protest and disruption of ICE raids by protesters.
Problem is the situation won't improve without an escalation
We had six months without protests. The administration seemed happy to escalate in their absence.
What if these protests aren't what's driving public policy? What if the problem is the administration itself and not the people reacting to the violence they're inflicting on the locals?
And ask yourself this. If ICE came into your city, what kind of community would you want to live in? One where your neighbors took to the streets to shut down the police convoys and scare off these thugs? Or one where friendly neighbors locked their doors and hid, while reactionary neighbors singled you out for the police to grab?
"Stop resisting! Stop resisting!"
The excuse was the existence of Hispanic people in Paramount, California. Everything that followed was a consequence of Trump's bigoted pogrom against Latinos.
They already do. But slapping the "bully" bumper sticker on an ICE truck full of your neighbors does nothing to get them out of that truck.
What the people of LA are doing is so much more than optics. They are actively saving lives and guarding their friends and neighbors from police violence.
They are resisting in the most material and direct way anyone can ask.
Californians have a right to defend themselves
If they want escalation then they can take it when ever they want. Police just wear plain clothes and throw a brick. Bam and done, at this point it’s best to just assume violence and act accusingly, it’s not like the media are impartial.