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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 37 points 3 days ago

The headlines said that 30% of code at Microsoft was AI now! Huge if true!

Something like MS word has like 20-50 million lines of code. MS altogether probably has like a billion lines of code. 30% of that being AI generated is infeasible given the timeframe. People just ate this shit up. AI grifting is so fucking easy.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

More code is usually bad code.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago

yeah, the "some projects" bit is applicable, as is the "machine generated" phrasing

@gsuberland pointed out elsewhere on fedi just how much of the VS-/MS- ecosystem does an absolute fucking ton of code generation

(which is entirely fine, ofc. tons of things do that and it exists for a reason. but there's a canyon in the sand between A and B)

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago

All compiled code is machine generated! BRB gonna clang and IPO, bye awful.systems! Have fun being poor

[-] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 3 days ago

No joke, you probably could make tweaks to LLVM, call it "AI", and rake in the VC funds.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago
[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago

(not in the compute side, but in the lying-obstructionist hustle side)

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago

would I happier if I abandoned my scruples? I hope I or nobody I know finds out.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

For some definition of "happiness", yes. It's increasingly clear that the only way to get ahead is with some level of scam. In fact, I'm pretty sure Millennials will not be able to retire to a reasonable level of comfort without accepting some amount of unethical behavior to get there. Not necessarily Slipp'n Jimmy levels of scam, but just stuff like participating in a basic stock market investment with a tax advantaged account.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

So, basically, there’s no ethical existence in our society? That’s starting to sound like soviet talk. Ronnie Reagan will be hearing about this.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, everything is fine ^Seize^ ^the^ ^means^ ^of^ ^production^

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

30% of code is standard boilerplate: setters, getters, etc that my IDE builds for me without calling it AI. It's possible the claim is true, but it's terribly misleading at best.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. Perhaps you didn’t read the linked article. Nadella didn’t claim that 30% of MS’s code was written by AI. What he said was garbled up to the eventual headline.
  2. We don’t have to play devil’s advocate for a hyped-up headline that misquotes what an AI glazer said, dawg.
  3. “Existing code generation codes can write 30%” doesn’t imply that AI possibly/plausibly wrote 30% of MS’s code. There’s no logical connection. Please dawg, I beg you, think critically about this.
[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago
[-] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

Man. If this LLM stuff sticks around, we’ll have an epidemic of early onset dementia.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

If the stories lf covid related cognitive decline are aue we are going to have a great time. Worse than lead paint.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

“Oh man, this brain fog I have sure makes it hard to think. Guess I’ll use my trusty LLM! ChatGPT says lead paint is tastier and better for your brain than COVID? Don’t mind if I do!”

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

I'm on a diet of rocks, glue on my pizza, lead paint, and covid infections, according to Grok this is called the Mr Burns method which should prevent diseases, as they all work together to block all bad impulses. Can't wait to try this new garlic oil I made, using LLM instructions. It even had these cool bubbles while fermenting, nature is great.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

That garlic oil will taste great with wild mushrooms, don’t buy them though, just ask chatGPT to make a list of mushrooms you can forage for free

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

Ah the book that made me change my mind on book bannings.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

I've been beating this drum for like 4~5y but: I don't think the tech itself is going anywhere. published, opensourced, etc etc - the bell can't be unrung, the horses have departed the stable

but

I do also argue that an extremely large amount of wind in the sails right now is because of the constellation of VC/hype//etc shit

can't put a hard number on this, but .... I kind see a very massive reduction; in scope, in competence, in relevance. so much of this shit (esp. the "but my opensource model is great!" flavour) is so fucking reliant on "oh yeah this other entity had a couple fuckpiles of cash with which to train", and once that (structurally) evaporates...

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