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Utterly rancid linkedin post:
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Why can planes "fly" but AI cannot "think"?An airplane does not flap its wings. And an autopilot is not the same as a pilot. Still, everybody is ok with saying that a plane "flies" and an autopilot "pilots" a plane.
This is the difference between the same system and a system that performs the same function.
When it comes to flight, we focus on function, not mechanism. A plane achieves the same outcome as birds (staying airborne) through entirely different means, yet we comfortably use the word "fly" for both.
With Generative AI, something strange happens. We insist that only biological brains can "think" or "understand" language. In contrast to planes, we focus on the system, not the function. When AI strings together words (which it does, among other things), we try to create new terms to avoid admitting similarity of function.
When we use a verb to describe an AI function that resembles human cognition, we are immediately accused of "anthropomorphizing." In some way, popular opinion dictates that no system other than the human brain can think.
I wonder: why?
I can use bad analogies also!
I think Eliezer might have started the bad airplane analogies... let me see if I can find a link... and I found an analogy from the same author as the 2027 ~~fanfic~~ forecast: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HhWhaSzQr6xmBki8F/birds-brains-planes-and-ai-against-appeals-to-the-complexity
Eliezer used a tortured metaphor about rockets, so I still blame him for the tortured airplane metaphor: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Gg9a4y8reWKtLe3Tn/the-rocket-alignment-problem
JFC I click on the rocket alignment link, it's a yud dialogue between "alfonso" and "beth". I am not dexy'ed up enough to read this shit.
Yes the 2 rs in strawberry machine thinks. In the same way that an airplane flies. /s
E: it gets even worse as half the AI field says the airplanes fly like how birds do. That is why the anthropomorphization is bad. Because it both doesn't think as in the function, nor think as in the system. And by anthropomorphizing people make it look like it can do both.
Dijkstra did it first, but it is very ai-booster to steal work without credit or understanding, I guess.
Threats to computing science
This is too fucking dumb to even be called sophistry.
slophistry
of course MBA came up with this
behold this fever dream animation
You ever see a random shitpost video, like the backgroud music, look it up and realize you already have the vinyl record? That just happened to me.
additional layer is that according to comments first track is also used in chinese nature documentaries
And as the same channel demonstrates, there are ways to fly without any wings at all
spoiler
…as well as with them!Man, it's really true what they say: the West can't meme.
Its almost like flapping part isn't a requirement for something to fly.