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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by dandelion to c/mtf

content warning, I'm going to be glib and talk about misogyny and transphobia in a joking manner - I don't mean to harm anyone, and I don't want to upset anyone.


OK hear me out: trans-exclusionary radical feminists, at least the actual radfems who are often middle-aged and still stuck in second-wave feminism, should love gender-affirming care ... doesn't it do exactly what they would love to do to men? Like, a lot of these women are cultural feminists, they essentialise men and women and view women as superior and men as inherently violent, oppressive, and bad. At least that's been my experience.

So, for example, if a man wants to suppress testosterone and take estrogen, shouldn't TERFs' fear about violence from men and the (admittedly simplistic) narrative that testosterone is responsible for that violence and aggression motivate them to embrace enabling as many men as possible to suppress their testosterone and chemically castrate themselves with estrogen?

Even if they don't believe that makes the man a woman, shouldn't they believe it's an improvement?

It just sounds like a revenge fever-dream concocted by second-wave lesbian separatist: a woman goes about secretly injecting abusive men with estrogen to calm them down ... it just sounds like a revenge fantasy they would be into.

The plot of The Gate to Women's Country literally centers around this fantasy of castrating men to make "good" men.

And if that's not compelling, I know they love the stories about chopping off dicks - come on, if they really believe trans women are a bunch of men, shouldn't they support access to gender-affirming care like vaginoplasties that do exactly that?

TERFs should support gender-affirming care even if they don't believe trans women are women. If men are the enemy they should be the biggest fans of chemically castrating and cutting the dicks off men.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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[-] Rozauhtuno 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I just want to point out that there is nowhere on the fediverse where a person can ask these questions

!asktransgender@lemmy.blahaj.zone

[-] werty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I think anything remotely construed as terf would fail their respect rule. Trans support is an all or nothing here.

[-] LadyAutumn 2 points 1 day ago

Respect in that context is more about showing that you're asking questions in good faith. Disrespectful behavior would be calling trans women men, saying that gender affirming care is harmful, etc.

[-] werty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I never said any such thing. I fully affirm gender affirming care as healthcare and i want my aussie tax dollars to pay for it.

[-] LadyAutumn 1 points 1 day ago

I definitely wasn't trying to imply that you had. I think a post you make about these subjects would most likely be allowed there.

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