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The United States is threatening invasion of a free and allied nation.
The media is complicit.
The population is complicit.
Edit: The military is complicit.
Come on dude. There are so many of us appalled with what's going on, don't put that shit on me or the entire population in general in the US. Asshat.
I mean, in a way, it's fair. We're not rising up to stop it in massive droves.
While there are valid reasons for why the US struggles with that (size, atomization of population, lack of job protections and jobs tied to healthcare, surveillance state), it's still valid for other nations to see that as capitulation.
Wage slavery and healthcare tied to your job is a hell of a drug, guys.
That’s less of an excuse than it is an explanation.
Right, which is why I advocate for fewer protests and more community organizing so we can care for each other outside of these broken ass systems. People are going to wait until after the last minute to start organizing ways to protect and care for each other, but that's America for you.
Yep. Protests are just being used at this point to root out dissidents. Mutual aid and sabotaging oppressive institutions where possible can be more effective ways for folks to participate in organized resistance without risking life and livelihood.
And despite my job being done easily online I have an RTO mandate and they might let me go just as easily as letting me work from another, less fascist, state.
Can’t have that corporate real estate underutilized
Nobody wants to be the first person to “go there,” and really protest (beyond waving a few cleverly worded signs on the sidewalk). The first person to take protests to the next level (i.e., throwing fists, rolling cars over, occupying government buildings, confronting masked cops during kidnappings, showing up with arms, whatever) gets mowed down rather quickly.
Ineffective, and it gives the current admin the leverage to bring the hammer down quickly, before an opposition can recoup and really organize.
People are waiting for a critical mass, and “the moment,” when they’re assured that everyone else will turn out en masse at the same time to set shit ablaze, French-protester-style. But nobody knows when “that moment” will be, exactly. Or if it’ll ever come. So, who’s gonna go first?
And who wants to go at all? It’s easy to talk a tough talk when you’re young and you don’t have family depending on you for their survival. Then again, those with children also want their kids to have a country to grow up in that resembles the one we grew up in (or, optimally, far better). So, quite a pickle.
Perhaps “the moment” will never come anyway, and we’ll all just whimper our way into Fascism.
Someone went first. But they might have went too early.
There's a lot more to come. His trial is going to be a circus. His biggest influence on socity is still ahead.
Exactly.
We’ve all watched the kids die too while the USA culturally adopted an armed populace in defence of a rogue government and risks to freedom.
We're not? What are all the protests ( growing in size) for then?
Protests /= violent resistance or building parallel systems so we can all go on general strike for a month.
General strike is our non-violent option, and violence is our, well, violent option. I'd prefer the former but I see a lot more protesting and a lot less organizing of community gardens and mutual aid networks.
We're up against a modern-surveillance-enabled police state and the largest military in the world. General strike to break the economy is the better option, imho. That requires organization and planning, not protests.
Protests don't hinder such organization though, and they can connect and embolden people. They're valuable as long as they're not all that gets done.
Then do something about your mad king, else your inaction speaks volumes.
How does that saying go... "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
See my other replies in here on what I'm already doing, which isn't unique to me specifically, many are doing these things. What else would you suggest I/we do?
Since I'm not just sitting on my ass and complaining or just throwing out Boondock Saints quotes without having some substance underneath it, your reply doesn't apply to me.
I know those of you outside of the US have dealt with some shit in your own countries, help us with some good suggestions please! Kicking us, especially those of us trying to make a difference, while we are down, isn't helpful.
“Don’t beat us while we’re down” - the country literally disappearing people.
The world has a right to be angry at your domestic issue that has turned global over the past 10 years.
What do you think the average German citizen should've done in 1939 to avoid condemnation?
This right here, the only Germans not remembered as Nazis are the ones who gave their lives or risked everything to stand for something other than Nazism. Those who hid Jews and others for their safety, who helped traffic them to safe countries, or spoke out and lost their lives for it. Everyone else is seen as a sympathizer at best.
There are many of us protesting, writing our Congress members, voting, Educating ourselves in matters of law, having difficult conversations with friends and family members that are either ignorant or maliciously compliant, amongst many other things.
There are many of us (including myself) that are ready to pick up arms should it come to it and defend our nation against this absolute garbage situation.
The US certainly isn't perfect, no one could ever make that claim with a straight face. However there are a TON of good people here that are actively fighting this.
People like that, including myself, NEED YOUR SUPPORT more now than ever. Like it or not, we all depend on each other. Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. It's not fair to those of us that aren't complicit. It's hard enough dealing with this situation right now without all the armchair quarterbacks out there kicking us while we're down. What does that say about those people?
Maybe offer some helpful advice on how you all have dealt with struggles within your own nations. After all, everyone has some shit they're dealing with.
Please don't paint an entire country's population with the same brush. It's disingenuous and not a good faith argument.
I'm literally an American talking about the America I live in.
Also the only real solution when it comes to a surveillance police state and massive military is mutual aid and a general strike. We have to take care of each other outside capitalist systems or we will fail. Breaking the economy and hurting them in their pocketbooks is really the only solution, and even that will invite violence. Better to have a plan and play defense than try to take on a bigger bully and lose fast and early.
Anyone who didn't vote is especially responsible.
Fucking dumbasses that they are.
I literally can't tell the difference between the parties still. /s
Or felons or disenfranchised for some reason it another.
Chill, some people have reasons and maybe they aren't all worse then actual fascists. I'd say likely most aren't but dehumanization is also fun though I guess.
We all knew where this was going.
Those who didn't vote based on some sort of moral principle were dumb enough to not realize they would make whatever those issues were 1000 times worse.
Hope they're happy with people being disappeared off the streets.
What reasons because of Gaza? Yah how did that turn out seems one option was worse then the other.
nobodies talking about people that lost the right to vote. chill.
Anyone who sits on their ass at this news is complicit. We are reaching the points where not standing up is in fact approval for the regime and their actions
Anyone who let this happen is complicit.
If you didn't vote, you're a fucking idiot who doesn't understand externalities.
The military is complicit.
Military is complicit
Like hell any of us is gonna bear arms against our allies.
Trump got rid of the military leaders who wouldn’t be complicit and no one cared
I'm not complicit. You're complicit