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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 370 points 1 day ago

This argument reveals that she thinks both sides are playing the same game. Progressives don't support corrupt leaders. MTG does.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 150 points 1 day ago

Then who is supporting Nancy Pelosi?

Quip aside, let's bring on the sunlight.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 day ago

Honestly don't know anyone that likes Pelosi.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know why anyone likes neoliberals.

She's a model one.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-federal-lawmakers-should-be-able-to-trade-stock.html

I vote blue with my nose held as always for harm reduction, but neoliberals like Pelosi are why so many actual leftwing people that want a society walked away, they have no party that isnt enthusiastically part of the root problem of maintaining crony market capitalism at society's catastrophic expense.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I guess they just want to be in charge for no other reason? Not really sure what their game is, but they'll follow the money to get elected and then do what their donors wanted them to do. Then??? I'm not really understanding what they have to gain other than insider information.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Then???

Profit. That's pretty much it. Why does anyone seek excess power in a capitalist society? Personal wealth gain. That insider info allows them to make their winning stock trades, and the "perks" they receive from their high offices (think private jet travel, free meals, tickets to events, etc) ensure that their expenses are kept at a minimum. Their lavish lifestyles while we struggle, and the fact that they could help resolve society's problems yet don't to keep the status quo, is the epitome of "fuck you, I got mine."

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't really understand how it's a lavish lifestyle if you have to hang out with a bunch of politicians and business people all the time. That sounds like pure hell to me. Like you're going to hang out with the vice president of East Coast sales for some manufacturing company or some shit, no thanks.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that's partially why the well connected and famous billionaires are such miserable assholes. Their lives really aren't that great because they're all uninteresting losers surrounded by uninteresting losers who sold their souls for money and power and spend decades between having any moments of real joy.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah but some people get off on it, like that being in the company of the rich and powerful increases their social stock (in their own insular world), and some thrive on that type of stuff.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That sounds fucking pathetic.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

I agree, but welcome to the world we live in.

[-] Maeve@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

It's like that movie, The Mask (and it's like that for the rest of us, too): the more times you put it on and the longer you wear it, the more you meld into it and the mask into you.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are you American?

I only ask because Americans are trained from birth to know (through for profit media and oligarch captured public education) that money is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and end, and the very meaning of existence and life itself as its own end.

It's why we're a bunch of rugged individuals competing against one another for oligarch scraps and not a society. It's the wedge that informs all others to keep their exploited capital batteries at war with each other instead of looking up at the greedy bastards running up their ego scores by burning us.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but I don't really care what other people think of me, so I don't feel the need to have to have a ton of money just to impress other people. Though having more money is always helpful just to make things easier in life. I'd be much happier if I didn't have to worry about paying for things like healthcare and education.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Congratulations, you bucked the overwhelming norm. People who make it to Congress, with the exception of spoilers, have proven to their respective parties through state elections that they love money, don't get bored of getting moar money, and know how to get it. That's how you get promoted in the parties. It's all they care about.

Because our values are so far beyond fucked it's almost funny in an absurdist humor kind of way.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but I don't really care what other people think of me, so I don't feel the need to have to have a ton of money just to impress other people.

I'm sure most of these politicians also don't care what other people think of them which is why it's so easy for them to do all this vile shit and stand in front of a national audience telling complete lies with a straight face. They aren't doing it to gain approval from other people, they're doing it because they're following their own concept of what an impressive person does.

She's as corrupt as they come, she just hides it behind a different type of veneer.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Ugh... I don't really want to be that guy, but she was well liked when she was first in office. In fact, I dare say she was cool once when she advocated for more AIDS support in the late 80s and pissed off Reagan, which is always good. But that was around when I was born, haha.

Unfortunately House seats rarely see competition, and I'm certain she grew complacent with age. Almost 40 fucking years, oof.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I was speaking in present tense, not past tense.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

She's not the best, but she's not the worst. Her biggest crime is what, using insider knowledge to trade stocks?

It's not like she gave a list of our spies to the Russians. Or likely sold classified documents. She didn't betray our allies. (Do I mean the Ukrainians, the Afghanis, or the Kurds?)

She was miles better than Manchin or McConnell. She wasn't our best, but she sure as hell wasn't a Republican. She got vilified primarily because she was a prominent Democrat for years. And it stuck because there was more than zero legitimacy.

They vilified her so much that some douchebag went after her and her husband with a hammer. There's a reason they didn't go after Manchin or Sinema or Menendez or McConnell or Gaetz.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

She's better than the bar republicans set, which is so low it's on the ground. Doesn't mean she's good.

I can tell you, that i truly and honestly think that Nancy Pelosi is the greatest! She's never wrong about anything, and I'm totally not eating my own vomit as i type this!

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sunlight? With this global warming? Are you nuts???

[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Or it reveals an intention by the republicans to release a flood of bad faith ethics reports on Democrats

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Oh no, republicans released the kraken.

Oh wait, nevermind, it looks like trump just scribbled with some crayon. And the occasional sharpie

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Magic the Gathering supports a lot of things. I don’t know if it supports this; I’ll ask.

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