Debates are only cool when they aren't meant to divide and create conflict-

Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don't actually like debates, you like discussions.

I clearly said I didn't see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it.

A) Yes it's a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it's going to involve sexism.

B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things "getting too political" just don't like the politics on display.

We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don't understand Star Wars.

Oh there certainly are funny trans jokes, it's just that they come from people who respect trans folks and understand them enough to actually be funny. Just like jokes about black people, which is what used to make Dave funny. He was familiar enough with black culture, and had respect for black people enough, to make actually funny jokes about them where the punchline wasn't "herrr durr look how dumb and scary they are".

I think they meant "citizen*'s* arrest" as in "arrest of a citizen". Not a citizen doing the arrest, as in "citizens arrest" .

Maybe... Just maybe, don't threaten to throw the whole country, including yourself, under the bus just because you can't completely change a country's position they'd had for over 50 years in 2 months.

then there's all the other stuff like student loans, the child tax credit

I see someone isn't following what is happening or how this works. The President, leader of the Dems, changed federal policy to forgive student loans (or at least a big chunk of them for a big chunk of the population) and it got struck down by the Supreme Court thanks to the other party. The Dems passed the child tax credit and then couldn't get it through the house to renew it because of the other party.

Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism, not actually improving things

Let's say that's true, it's objectively not but let's pretend it is. Isn't that still the obviously better option? How the fuck is fascism today better than fascism tomorrow?

Even if that were the case, which it's clearly not, wouldn't it be better to move slowly towards full-on fascism than speed run it?

What is with all the both-sidesing and accelerationism on here in the last few weeks? Some of you all are either too young or too privileged to remember what living under Trump was really like, and he's been abundantly clear that his next term will be far worse.

You won't find very many enthusiastic Biden supporters, but I'd much rather have four more years of this than four-plus more years of Trump with a grudge and nothing left to lose.

I feel like I must be reading this wrong, but it seems like 4 are dead, not 3. Are they not counting the suspect as one of the dead?

It says the officer died, two victims inside died, and the suspect died. That would be four dead not three. Plus the first victim could have died or been close to it since we don't know anything about her condition.

🎶The Worrrrrrrrrst🎶

All garbage stinks, but it doesn't all stink the same.

Or, as I've seen before, both speeding and murder are crimes, but certainly one of them is worse than the other.

Religion is the coat of paint put on top of an occupation that is actually the root cause here.

Both the Zionists and the Jihadists claim to be inspired by their religion, but the actual cause of the decades-long conflict has little to do with religion and much more to do with decades of occupation and oppression.

Europe (Britain mostly) and the US pushed the newly formed UN to pass a resolution calling for the creation of Israel in 56% of the territory, but the zionist militias actually took almost 75% of the land while destroying entire villages and murdering the existing population. The West continued to support them after that and have been tacitly approving of them taking even more of the land as the decades have gone by. The West is not blameless, but it was very much Israel that did it.

It will never end as long as the Israeli government keeps treating the Palestinians as subhuman. That's what creates more terrorists every day. Hamas is a response to Israel's continued occupation and oppression. The Nakba has been going on for over 50 years and people still out here acting like Palestine started all this.