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How about we don't let the dictator who is shouting his plans to the world run for president?
“But what I will say, too, though, is I think everybody should vote for Joe Biden if they want our democracy to survive,” she added.
Cue the people who want to clutch their pearls like, "BuT I DoN't WaNt ThIs DeMoCrAcY tO sUrViVe!" as if they have an alternative option that isn't a Trump-fueled fascist dystopia.
I think there's an alarming number of Americans who are realizing the government is the only thing between them and the violent fantasies they desperately want to enact.
Same people who are afraid to visit New York or Chicago today think that they will thrive in a lawless dystopia.
Or that war-torn husk, Seattle
Seattle? Conservatives swear it was burned to the ground along with Portland. They really do believe these cities were demolished into rubble. It's bizarre.
Conservatism is a mental illness.
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They don't think it will be a lawless utopia, do they? They want strict application of laws on people, just not corporations. Unless those corporations directly harm them, then it's bad corporation.
I see it as akin to how Nazis pushed the idea that the Weimar government was soft on crime (liberals just didn't understand how to apply "justice"), so they opened Dachau to show their fellow Germans how "criminals" should be dealt with. It served as a primer on how they would operate the kz network in Poland and elsewhere.
Wilhoit's Law : Conservatism consists of one principle: there needs to be an in-group whom the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group whom the law binds but does not protect.
At the least the number of Americans simultaneously realizing this about their neighbors is pretty high too.
as if they have an alternative option that isn’t a Trump-fueled fascist dystopia
As if the democrats don't lead to the same end result, only slower and more "politely"..
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
Also, you not being comfortable, or even able, to think outside of the existing (and completely artificial) constructs we're forced to live under, doesn't mean other options don't exist, only that you haven't bothered looking for them.
Go back to your troll cave with this "both sides are the same" bullshit.
Even if that were the case, which it's clearly not, wouldn't it be better to move slowly towards full-on fascism than speed run it?
What is with all the both-sidesing and accelerationism on here in the last few weeks? Some of you all are either too young or too privileged to remember what living under Trump was really like, and he's been abundantly clear that his next term will be far worse.
You won't find very many enthusiastic Biden supporters, but I'd much rather have four more years of this than four-plus more years of Trump with a grudge and nothing left to lose.
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Work on ranked choice voting.
Colorado has a ballot measure for that.
Meanwhile check an org working for voting reforms /ranked choice
The Federal Fair Representation Act For example, would go a massive way for voting reform.
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As if the democrats don't lead to the same end result, only slower and more "politely"..
Can you say, "Slippery Slope Fallacy?"
...doesn't mean other options don't exist, only that you haven't bothered looking for them.
Go learn what a FPTP System is.
As if the democrats don’t lead to the same end result, only slower and more “politely”…
Yes. The Democrats would have definitely slowly and politely installed far-right Supreme Court justices that would have ended Roe.
That sounds very credible.
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....what's the dark reason? Was there something new, or the same "end of democracy" we've known very well about for about 8 years now?
Yeah, that thing she participated in.
I came to the comments to have that question answered. Because fuck this clickbait title. And fuck huffington post generally. If I wanted an article that was just a bunch of snappy white liberals tweeting...I'd go on twitter.
the same “end of democracy” we’ve known very well about for about 8 years now
It's that.
Actually, the article says that she's personally planning to go to the homes of every person that either doesn't vote or votes for Trump and snap the necks of their children.
How is it that people are intelligent enough to type words on a screen to form complete sentences yet incapable of reading the content which they're commenting on? And how do others choose to support this sort of statement?
“But what I will say, too, though, is I think everybody should vote for Joe Biden if they want our democracy to survive,”
For the elementary schoolers, Hutchinson is saying that, "if they want our democracy to survive", "everybody should vote for Joe Biden".
You may not agree with this statement, you may claim that this title is clickbait, you may argue that HuffPost is a shitty outlet for news; but to question "what's the dark reason?" and have others upvote such a question, while the answer to the question is very clearly written in the article in which you're commenting on, suggests you and others are simply too lazy or disinterested in giving a shit about the topic and more interested in generating your own rage-bait content for karma.
But it's just so much more fun to have a sanctimonious blowhard such as yourself summarize it in the most obnoxious way possible!
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And yet, she’s still registered as a Republican. 🤔
Probably not the case with her, but I'm registered as a Republican to vote in their primaries. The way the party has gone though it's going to be a cold day in hell before I vote for a Republican in a general election.
There's a lot I disagree with Democrats on, but in general I can usually live with whoever they end up putting up as a candidate. I may not be thrilled about some of them, but they're usually not trying to send us headfirst into a fascist hellhole.
Republicans though, while pretty much all shitty, are a bit of a mixed bag, and I'd rather try to head off the trumps, Santoses, DeSantises, etc. before they make it to the general election.
Why would anyone vote for genocide Joe
Can you please explain to us what you're talking about? How Is Joe Biden "Genocide Joe"? And I guess you're a Trump supporter, why don't you call him "Trump the insurrectionist"? He did in fact try to take power on january 6, but I guess that's OK.
There's been a concerted push by these dillweeds lately whining about Biden monetarily supporting Israel -- something the US and literally every US president has done since Israel existed -- which somehow amounts to Biden personally performing any and all atrocities Israel is up to at the moment. Therefore the only logical thing to do must be to not vote for Biden or any other Democrats (unspoken subtext: and let Trump win instead).
It's such a narrow view.. Biden and his administration don't have anything to do with what's happening on the ground in Gaza, but In my view the US politics for decades have something to do with how it's become. If they where harder on Israel we might have had a different situation. That is not to say I agree with what this guy said. It's completely nonsense.
It's a deceitful presentation of the facts, ultimately. You can determine to vote for Biden in an effort to stave off fascism and not support his stance on Israel. Biden could have and should have not been so glib, and he clearly did not gauge the temperature of his electorate very well (if at all).
But these "Biden genocide" types often falsely imply there's a viable alternative that isn't Trump or Biden, yet they can never say who, and they can never show how that person would overcome the tribal and very reliable Republican voting bloc.
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He's a lemmy.ml user so I would suspect he's not a Trump supporter but instead someone who gulps down the propaganda the Kremlin and Beijing aim at the western left by the gallon.
Chances are he is Russian or Chinese
Ah, I didn't notice.. I myself are on the left.. But I don't take anything people on Lemmy.ml say seriously, and to be quite honest I'm very sceptical about the dev of lemmy as they clearly are communist, which is not very positive in today's world in my view.
Depends. Are we speaking about communism/socialism or dictatorships? America has fucked the word communist so hard it has no meaning anymore because of idiots attributing it to dictators.
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So what you are saying is that Donald J Trump is going to come to the rescue of the oppressed Muslim people of Palestine? The same Trump whose Middle East peace plan was formulated by his Jewish son-in-law and basically said “give Israel what they want, and everything will be fine”?
Gotcha.
Not at all. He will be even worse. By a long shoot. I still don't see that as an argument for anything
Because they'd rather not live under a fascist dictator? Did you read the article?
Because if he's the frontrunner, the alternative is no more democracy.
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Imagine being unable to understand why people would vote against Donald Trump...
Ah yes, Genocide Joe, as opposed to Genocide Xi or Genocide Vladimir..
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