[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 4 hours ago

Literally anyone can run in a closed primary. A closed primary means that only registered members of the party can vote in the primary.

Winning the primary decides whether or not someone can run as a candidate in the general election. Either you need that explained because you don’t know anything about primaries or you are pretending to not understand what you’re reading.

There are only 15 states that hold closed primaries. I live in a state with open primaries, and I'm repped by Ed Markey, Elizabeth Warren, and Ayanna Pressley. Not exactly a bunch of secret conservatives, is it?

Your reading comprehension is failing you again. Having no vetting process doesn’t guarentee the candidate is a “secret conservative” it just increases the chances of it happening. I’m surprised I need to explain that again.

It isn't. Sit down, you don't know what you're talking about.

vetting noun [ U ] US /ˈvet.ɪŋ/ UK /ˈvet.ɪŋ/ the action of examining someone or something carefully to make certain that they are or it is acceptable or suitable for something

It’s literally the definition of what they are doing with closed primaries. Why does that need to be explained to you?

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 1 points 8 hours ago

And giving people the choice between center right and far-right doesn't motivate voters.

That choice was made by the voters.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 8 hours ago

LOL, how do you think letting anyone run as a candidate without vetting them will turn out?

Absolutely any bad actor will be able to run without intervention. The floodgates would be open. Which is probably what the bad actors calling for open primaries want.

Also, closed primaries don't add any more vetting. They just mean that the only people who get to vote in the primaries are party members.

This is the definition of vetting. lol

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 11 hours ago

Nah, they just cater to their corporate donors and folks that would never vote for them.

Because of Citizens United, this is a necessary evil. You either get donors or you lose from lack of funding.

Look at the progressives that lost recently because AIPAC out funded their competition.

Voters had to chose between two candidates, one on the left and one on the right. Voters chose the one on the right. Meaning not enough leftist showed up to vote.

Leftist don’t show up to vote > voters chose the option furthest right > leftists learn nothing, blame democrats and do it again next cycle.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 14 hours ago

They need to start poking bears. Use the laws even if outnumbered. Show force; show pressure.

These words mean nothing. They are not a strategy or a plan or even coherent.

You’re avoiding the fact that in a democracy, you need enough votes to make things happen.

Tell us what is happening. Get the word out. We can't help if all we hear is what has happened.

We know what’s happening. That’s why we are having this conversation.

The rules have changed and democrats are still using a textbook from 1990.

What rules have changed? Republicans are breaking the rules by performing a coup. To even imply that democrats should do the same thing as republicans shows you’re arguing in bad faith.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 14 hours ago

And how will removing the vetting process impact the amount of candidates we get like Fetterman? It will increase them.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 5 points 15 hours ago

If you don’t have enough elected officials to do anything then criticism is pointless.

Criticism is for when there is no threat to your ability to get elected.

Criticism before an election is secured, gives the opposition talking points to use against you. It also gives voters a reason to feel apathetic and not vote.

This guarantees leftist legislation doesn’t get passed and leftists politicians don’t get elected.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 11 points 16 hours ago

FUD works by sowing apathy to discourage a behavior. In this scenario, all that criticism is used by bad actors to convince people who would vote democrat to just stay home or believe that voting doesn’t matter because bother sides are the same.

Leftists fuel the anti-democratic propaganda machines with their ‘criticism’. Those ‘criticisms’ have consequences and in the end, prevent leftists legislation from being passed.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 8 points 16 hours ago

Did leftists stay home during the election and hand over the US to fascists because of spongebobcase?

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 12 points 17 hours ago

Yup, staying home on Election Day because of genocide leads to defeat.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 21 points 17 hours ago

What choice do we have? Leftists stayed home during the election because of gEnOcIdE. So now democrats don’t have enough elected officials to do anything. Thanks leftists!

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 13 points 17 hours ago

Too many leftists stayed home during the election. Now democrats don’t have enough elected officials to do anything. But you probably knew that.

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