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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 173 points 3 months ago

Jean-Paul Sartre said it best I think.

"Never believe that anti-Semites [fascists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 90 points 3 months ago

Did it "age like milk" when they were just lying the whole time?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 months ago
[-] ech@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Cheese is good, though. Bullshit seems like a more appropriate comparison.

[-] SCmSTR 13 points 3 months ago

Aged like racism.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago
[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

lol I keep getting replies like this. I guess what I meant was, cheese is expected to age. Like OPs scenario aged exactly as I would have expected it to.

[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 78 points 3 months ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

"Entitlement Reform" has been a watchword in both parties going back to the Reagan Administration.

Democrats will tell you they've got an innovative exciting new solution to slow the rate at which health care costs rise, then shift a bunch of public sector money over to private sector subsidies.

Republicans will tell you they're cutting fat out of the system, then transform a bunch of public sector spending into private sector tax breaks.

Healthcare gets more expensive and less accessible. Each team blames the other one. A few socialists in some of the bluer states suggest we try a public Medicare-for-All model, then get primaried out of office in the next cycle by a pack of lobbyists in blue waist coats.

"Ah, but the pawl and the gear are clearly two different components doing separate things!" I cry, to any sucker who will listen.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Don't work, Daddy musk is here to make a 3rd party which will toxify the potential of any legitimate 3rd party, and we will continue on with the same system.

If their plan for not having elections at all doesn't come to fruition

[-] SoleInvictus 5 points 3 months ago

Oh no, I can absolutely see him starting a DOGE Party. He has enough money to entirely bankroll it himself. I wish he wasn't such a dipshit man child; he's in a position to do so much good, yet just makes everything he touches worse.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I, for one, am excited to see him Billionaire Blowout himself on a scale not seen since Bloomberg hemorrhaged $1B during the 2020 Primaries to come in fourth place.

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[-] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 8 points 3 months ago

Voters chose the option furthest right so the government shifted right. This happens every time the left most option isn’t chosen.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Voters chose the option furthest right

Politicians picked their voters in order to guarantee this outcome. Gerrymandering, mass disenfranchisement along social and ethnic lines, vote caging, intimidation, misinformation, straight up sabotage of voting venues... It happens all the time in liberal democracies, particularly in poorer, more homogeneous, and more rural neighborhoods.

As soon as the politicians fuck up on the math and a socialist breaks through (as with AOC beating Crowley back in '18 or Mamdani trouncing Cuomo last week), you get to see the "moderates" and their conservative cats' paws rush in to subvert the popular will.

This happens every time the left most option isn’t chosen.

The joke is how quickly a government will move to the right when the left-most option is chosen.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

It doesn’t always feel that clean cut to me. I’m not arguing that you are wrong. You are absolutely correct! You are describing a huge problem.

But our stupid voting system is another problem that serves to keep that first one in place. Small uprisings against the two party system might be noticed but they will be filtered out. To change the system it seems there has to be widespread and persistent discontent and rebellion well beyond what we’re already seeing. We’re definitely moving in that direction though, for better or worse.

That stupid voting system means that if you are going to support a third party with good ideas, you must necessarily withdraw your support from whichever of the pawl and gear you prefer to the other. Enter ranked choice, star, etc.

So in an election like 2024 when it comes time to cast the actual vote, I’m left thinking: So what if I take my finger off the pawl there, and what we thought was a gear starts spinning like a buzz saw and cuts my fucking leg off?

I guess going loopy from blood loss while I point my femoral artery at people like a garden hose and find ultimate rest knowing I was right about the system sure beats dying from nuclear winter.

So that’s what so many can’t ignore when it comes time to choose. Yeah if we elected Harris we’d be living in a country of capitalism and inequality, with Israel doing horrors under our wing. It wouldn’t be a good outcome.

But compare it with what we got. I’m just some employed straight white father living in suburban nowheresville USA, but I would very much rather my government didn’t have a gestapo, or bomb Iran, or sell access & secrets, or leave NATO, or support fossil fuels, or work against green energy, or round up people who have been living a peaceful productive life and destroy those lives by the thousands because they are ethnically undersirable to the base.

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[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

It is looking like that more and more. If they don't fight back they are complacent and the same.

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago
[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

What sucks here is she opposes Trump's bill.

[-] ThisDayForwardBetty@piefed.social 64 points 3 months ago

She says she opposes it after voting for it. Don’t let her off the hook.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Oh indeed: that's part of what really makes this curdle.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

muroskwi said the same thing

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

She voted for the bill in the House, then came out against it stating that she didn't know the bill limited AI regulation.

The bill then went to the Senate where the provisions limiting AI regulation were removed, and then passed.

The House will once again vote on the bill, which now does not restrict AI regulation.

She hasn't made any statement but presumably she now supports the bill, given her only complaint about it has been removed.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

i have a feeling she was going to support the bill anyways, she wanted some way to not take the blame for supporting the bbb as a whole.

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[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago

She'll fall in line like the rest of the spineless Reps.

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[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Don't believe her words, believe her actions. And those says she supports it.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

GOP wants to kill it. Democrats want to privatize it. Both are an enemy of the people.

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