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[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago

Fuck that, instead of making them increase their imaginary "up to" numbers, make them advertise contractually guaranteed minimums. Id rather have a 25 mb minimum over a 100 mb maximum that usually sits around 8 mb.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

When I bought internet services and colocated with major carriers every contract came with a Quality of Service rider that stipulated guaranteed quality and quantity of service. If my metrics fell below those minimums I had recourse. But, I could not extend that to my customers because they were using a shared resource I was providing. In general, though, I agree that there should be a QOS with every user connection.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 33 points 7 months ago

and 20Mbps for upload

What we actually care about.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

100Mb/s is still pretty abysmal.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 51 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A 4x increase for download and a 7x increase requirment for upload.

That's a pretty solid improvement, honestly. They also have plans on whne to increase it to 1Gbps down/500Mbps up, so it seems like they are taking it seriously.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

It’s long overdue and gigabit should be standard

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It is long overdue, as the last update was 2015, when a democrat was President. The GOP refused to do it, and it took some time to seat a new FCC head due to Republican obstruction.

Gigabyte is coming, just not yet. This is a fine incremental step.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

We should’ve had it when we paid for it, instead of telecom execs pocketing the money.

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[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago
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[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

lol I've never had anything over 12Mb/s. Currently have 8Mb/s, which costs roughly half than what I use to pay for 500kb/s

I would love to have 100Mb/s. Hell even half that.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It's interesting. I have a remote place (not where I live) in the least populated, podunkest county in the state (which is saying something). And we were still able to get fibre and 50Mbps out there (and it could be higher, but not really worth the extra money since it's rarely used).

Still within a couple hours of a big city, though. Guessing you're further away than that, or something?

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[-] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

100mbps symmetric should be minimum standard. 100mbps down with 10mbps up is worse than remote islands with mud huts. Seriously, I was on a Pacific island that looked like what an after hurricane photo op does, and they had direct access to the fiber cables. So gigabit symmetric internet ONTs glued to the side of huts for a few bucks a month.

[-] Coskii 24 points 7 months ago

Cool, now make them use bytes as the system of measurement and we'll be on to something.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 7 months ago

I fear that will only happen when storage manufacturers are forced to use 1024 bytes per KB like everyone else.

In fairness it's a very longstanding tradition that serial transfer devices measure the speed in bits per second rather than bytes. Bytes used to be variable size, although we settled on eight a long time ago.

[-] pafu@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

1024 bytes per KB

Technically, it's 1000 bytes per KB and 1024 bytes per KiB. Hard drive manufacturers are simply using a different unit.

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Base 10 is correct and more understandable by humans. Everyone uses it except Windows and old tools. macOS, Android (AOSP), etc.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 7 months ago

Found the hard drive manufacturer.

It's 1024. It's always been 1024. It'll always be 1024.

Unless fo course we should start using 17.2GB RAM sticks.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

There’s a conflict between the linguistic and practical implications here.

“kilo-“ means 1,000 everywhere. 1,000 is literally the definition of “kilo-“. In theory, it’s a good thing we created “kibi-“ to mean 2^10 (1024).

Why does everyone expect a kilobyte to be 1024 bytes, then? Because “kibi-“ didn’t exist yet, and some dumb fucking IBM(?) engineers decided that 1,000 was close enough to 1,024 and called it a day. That legacy carries over to today, where most people expect “kilo-“ to mean 1024 within the context of computing.

Since product terminology should generally match what the end-user expects it to mean, perhaps we should redefine “kilobyte” to mean 1024 bytes. That runs into another problem, though: if we change it now, when you look at a 512GB SSD, you’ll have to ask, “512 old gigabytes or 512 new gigabytes?”, arguably creating even more of a mess than we already have. That problem is why “kibi-“ was invented in the first place.

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[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Computers run on binary, base 2. 1000 vs 1024, one is byte aligned(2^10), the other is not.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

100Mbps is still very slow. Much better than 25Mbps, but still slow.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have symmetric 1Gbps and do a LOT of data transfer (compared to 99.99% of people). And even then I rarely really would need or even notice more than 100Mbps.

For most people, in the real world, why is 100Mbps "very slow"?

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[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

It's amazing how much our views change with time. My dad was definitely a super early adopter of cable when it became available in our area, if I recall it was 16 Mbps which was unreal to me in 2002. I made do with 5 Mbps in uni and it was totally usable.

But now, I've had 1Gbps for years and wow it's so different, changes your habits too. I don't hoard installed games as much, I can pull them down in minutes so why keep something installed if I'm not going to use it?

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[-] nowwhatnapster@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Altice (Optimum) took this opportunity to cut upload speeds from 35mbps to 20 under the guise of the "free upgrade". You want your old upload speeds back? Oh that's their most expensive tier now.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

I'm dropping them, it was too unreliable for work from home. I pay twice as much now for fios

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[-] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I care more for stability and low latency, not so much speed.

Offering me a faster cellular or satellite connections doesn't interest me.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 7 months ago

There are features of IPv6 that would help there. I actually think pushing that to be rolled out widely is more important than 1Gbps connections.

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[-] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 13 points 7 months ago

*cries in Australian*

[-] deania@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

My parents pay like 40 dollars per month for 1Mb down and like .2 Mb up

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Shit, that should legitimately be illegal.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Do they also have to feed the pigeons carrying the data packets?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I'm sitting here fine at 30Mbps. Can have two streams no problem.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

I went from a 1.5/1 Gbps fibre connection down to a 20/10 Mbps when I moved. There is a MASSIVE difference. Rural internet is dog shit and no one cares

[-] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

I honestly believe that is because rural areas are almost always represented by republicans, voted in by majority republican voters. both groups of which are extremely disinclined of making the entirety of human knowledge easily and quickly accessible, because then people might see how much things are better in other countries and start asking questions to their federal representatives.

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[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago

Your download speed being fast or slow doesn't mean the servers hosting the data you're accessing or the DNS servers between you and that server are going to feed you data at that speed.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I'd like to see a big government push to provide municipal services in every single metro area and extend it by whatever means into rural communities.

Xfinity keeps raising rates, I'm paying more now for just internet than the cost of basic cable, internet + digital voice was back in the 00s. While around 800 down, it's still only about 40 something up, and has been like that for years and years.

I think we desperately need competition and if the government were to provide it, that'd be just fine.

[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Aww, that's cute.

-posted from my 768k $80/mo broadband.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Here I am getting 5KB/s in California 😏

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[-] codeddji@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But only 20 ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ up !!

!! :-(

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