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[-] IverCoder@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

If your community knowingly depends on slavery then your community probably deserves to collapse

[-] lemmybrucelee@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Not community. Economy.

Slavery, Prison labour, migrant labour that you can totally rip off and not pay, and lastly child labour. That's what's propping up the economy at this point..

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[-] query@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Using underpaid prison labor to deny people access to well-paying jobs, forcing more people into difficult situations.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 48 points 1 year ago

Which again raises crime, which in turn raises the amount of underpaid prison labor.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

See, the system works. Well, not for us.

[-] OneeChan@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not a meme…

Once you know how and why was the private prisons created or operate and “earn” their money you would be sad if not depressed…

I recommend watching a documentary on this topic.

 

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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 71 points 1 year ago

So they are literally forced labour camps? How can anyone in the US still complain about Russia? (Just as a disclaimer, this is not a defence of Russia. I think the conditions there are terrible, but the US doesn't seem far behind, if at all)

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US has way better propaganda - the marketing strategies invented in the 60s by the nephew of Freud were put to very good use at bypassing people's reasoning and not just at making them feel needs, fears, and short-term endorphine jolts related to products and services being sold.

Also the US has way better circus and more bread than Russia.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cuz different rule sets apply to different parts of the world. That and the clever naming scheme the US usually applies to make things sound not as bad or marginably better than they actually are.

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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Russia's actively committing genocide and threatens nuclear war against anyone who directly intervenes, so there's that.

I agree with you though. The U.S. is just a third world country with a nice coat of paint at this point.

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much exact argument much of the south made about ending slavery before the american civil war happened..

[-] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Also frequently hear the same argument made for any change to the thoroughly corrupt healthcare scheme in the U.S.

That any form of socialized medicine would collapse the insurance industries putting thousands out of work and damaging stock portfolios and retirement accounts that may have invested in such. But hey, it's totally ok to bankrupt tons of citizens and enslave ill folks to lousy jobs because they can't afford to lose employment-tied insurance that would never be affordable as an individual.

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[-] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Translation: "But... muh slaves!"

That sounds an awful fucking lot like some of the rationale the confederates used around the time of the civil war.

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[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

The very idea that we have legal, Constitutional slavery still in the US and most people don't know or care is genuinely disturbing.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago

So it's just "we can't abolish slavery because it will hurt all the poor slave-owners" but modernized.

[-] brad@toad.work 12 points 1 year ago

I would argue that it's not even modernized. It's just the same argument.

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[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Translation: Slavery has always been legal in the US.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism. Gulag labor in the USSR was widely acknowledged and documented. And there are likewise credible accusations of forced labor (and much worse) in China as well. It's bad in every case, and intellectually honest observers would condemn this practice in every instance.

This isn't capitalism or communism - it's an autocracy and human rights issue. The places with the best criminal justice outcomes these days are generally the "third way socialism" eg Scandinavian model countries which have a blended version of regulated capitalism and wealth redistribution.

[-] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism.

The majority of western capitalist countries DON'T have legal slave labour in their prison system (or anywhere). I'm pretty sure it's actually only the USA

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[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 42 points 1 year ago

Huh. So US would collapse without slave labour?

[-] lemmybrucelee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Well, actually, yes. Or without migrant labour which they are losing hence the child labour law issues recently. Study harder. You will get it.

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[-] ChillPill@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Sounds like slavery with extra steps.

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[-] hungryphrog 31 points 1 year ago

Private prisons? Seriously, Amurica?

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Sounds like slavery with extra steps, cuz it is.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Oh no, is your community relying on slave labor because capitalism deems it not efficient enough to exist? Boo hoo so sad, better vote pro-slaver again next election, they will surely fix the problem this term.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Guys but China is the bad one!!%(+%!

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
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[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

But no, we can't plan out and try out a new or better system, because we might hurt poor old capitalism's feelings. Won't somebody think of the billionaires?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Did you intend to post this on a meme c/? Seems like the wrong place

[-] atri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If that community wants to keep those lucrative prison jobs they need to step up and get incarcerated more.

Using the same excuse slave owners in 1860 used isn't a good look...

[-] wheresmypillow@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

This doesn’t have to be on or off. Don’t think “shut down”, think “draw down over time”. So instead of an immediate collapse, you get improvement over time.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Should they have "drawn down" slavery over time too last time around, to make it easier for their enslavers to adjust?

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