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[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 9 months ago

Drugs are cool and good actually : kalm

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I find that the balmer peak holds not just for alcohol, but tracks better for most other drugs. Coding after smoking a joint is great.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

I've never had much success with this. It starts out fine and then I'm like "I'm being stupid, I should write some code to write this code for me." Then later "I should write some code that will write the code that'll write the code for me." Then I get lost in all the abstraction and say "fuck it, I'll just play a video game".

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I just end up refactoring the same 3 classes, pass out, and wake up to clean code with documentation. It's like the cobbler and the elves but code and weed.

[-] iluminae@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Sometimes I wonder if in 75 years people will look back on our caffeine use in this generation like we currently look back at cocaine use in products in the 19th century. Until then, I continue to slurp down coffee like that is my actual job.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago

Caffeine is pretty well studied and it's known that the long term health effects are nothing close to cocaine. I doubt if there was any good science back then on the long term effects of cocaine, let alone enough education for the populace to know and understand it.

However social perceptions may change anyway. What we consider as not serious may be considered much more serious in the future. For example many people get headaches or even migraines as a withdrawal symptom of caffeine, and we don't consider a headache to be serious.

But I saw a Star Trek episode once where Picard gets a headache and it was a big deal because those had been solved for hundreds of years by that time! Turns out the ferengi were controlling his mind or something. So caffeine may be considered a serious drug in the future if it interferes with the detection of alien mind control devices.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

If caffeine is considered a serious drug in my lifetime, I hope I've got a good cellmate because I'm going away forever.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Strawberry 7 points 9 months ago

Caffeine withdrawal can get more serious too. I've gotten cold sweats and vomited from caffeine withdrawal

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

You were almost certainly going over the recommended 400mg/day maximum with symptoms like that

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago
[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

It's either that, or all drugs will be cool (again?). No in between, because anybody that's honestly thought about it can see the current situation is a self-contradiction.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago

Drug addiction is only negative if it causes you problems in life, and I'd say that coffee doesn't really cause me problems in life.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 34 points 9 months ago
[-] apprehentice@lemmy.enchanted.social 32 points 9 months ago

Says the water addict. Oh, look at me! I can't go three days without water!

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 9 months ago

Coffee addict is technically water addict, too

[-] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Unintentional Lemmy moment

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Coffee costs a lot more than water

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago

Iirc coffee addiction worsens sleep quality and costs money. It's not like blocking your body from being tired can really be beneficial.

[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Alternatively you have undiagnosed adhd and it helps you function like a real human :D

[-] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago

One of the reasons I was able to argue my ADHD was impacting my life negatively was the fact I was drinking enough coffee to hurt my health just to feel human and I still had executive dysfunction, so stimulants would be more effective and overall work as harm reduction. Now I'm not even on stimulants (technically), I'm finding bupropion works best for me. I still have a small cup of coffee in the morning, as it keeps me regular.

[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think, if left to my own devices, I will have about 2-6 cups of instant coffee in a day depending on my mood. Though I don't think there's much caffeine in it? I never thought about howwww much caffeine was going in, but maybe that's because it doesn't do much for me besides helping focus (poorly at that).

[-] Ilflish@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Depends on how addicted. People tend to conflate 1 cup in the morning with 6 throughout the day because they both use them as a pick me up.

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Coffee also is high in polyphenols - the benefits almost certainly outweigh the drawbacks. Just don't drink coffee after the morning.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 9 months ago

There are plenty of other sources for polyphenols - including tea, but also chocolate, qinoa, buckwheat etc.

There is no need to drink coffee in order to replenish polyphenols in your body.

And drawbacks are huge: aside from broken sleep, caffeine puts a giant strain on cardiovascular and other systems, and in people with caffeine addiction, not having their cup leads to high irritability, sleepiness, dizziness, and a lot of other symptoms.

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are plenty of studies displaying improved cardiovascular health in those who drink 1-4 cups of coffee a day.. Generally, cardiovascular risks of caffeine from coffee are not important for the average person's health decisions.

In addition, there is a good argument for caffeine prior to exercise - it improves performance and therefore results and therefore health outcomes.

Also tea has caffeine as well (technically dark chocolate too, but less than tea so not really a concern).

And again, the solution to sleep issues are to not have caffeine (tea, coffee, or otherwise) more than a few hours after you wake up.

Withdrawal symptoms are not a major concern - they are temporary at best.

Edit: there are plenty of sources of polyphenols - but frankly the average American does not get nearly enough generally. If you have a typical American diet, I would not recommend quitting coffee as a health measure unless you have already drastically increased consumption of polyphenols generally.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Alright, thanks for fair criticism! Will delve deeper.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

4 cups of coffee a day is fine

[-] jroid8@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

True. I can't drink unlimited quantities of coffee without having negative effects, as such I limit myself to two cups a day, one in the morning and one after lunch.

[-] jroid8@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I would love to drink one cup of coffee a day but any amount of coffee will amplify my anxiety. I drink once I'm cured

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Sorry to hear that. Hope your condition improves, anxiety is a really nasty thing to deal with.

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

I get anxiety issues from Coffee and tend to feel completely exhausted at the end of days. I try to ditch it and mostly replace it with Jasmine Tea, Oolong or Yerba Mate

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I like Yerba Mate, but I dare not drink it that much on account of the absolutely massive caffeine content it has (granted you drink it bombilla-style).

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Idk what the issue with too much caffeine is. Like, even my math teacher told me to be caucious but I dont feel exhausted at the end of the day like on Coffee.

But I try to mostly use Jasmine tea for now.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I get problems sleeping, plus I get dehydrated as well, on top of the things you mentioned

[-] Muzle84@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Dehydrated with a liquid that is made of 99% water? I've been told a long time ago that this is a myth, but frankly, I don't know.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Are you suggesting that alcohol doesn't dehydrate you either? For me the dehydration effect is pretty obvious at least

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Caffeine makes you pee a lot

[-] Steve@startrek.website 21 points 9 months ago

Remember you’re not a Mormon, kalm

[-] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

What is this, a meme for Mormons?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 9 months ago

I mean, they're actually right about this one - caffeine is still a drug, so if you're addicted to it you're definitionally a drug addict.

Or, they would be, except apparently the issue with coffee is that it's hot. Dew is fine.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

I wish I didn’t have such a dependence on coffee. I’m about to go on a trip and am brining instant coffee with me to the airport in case the shops are closed during my early flight and I’m not able to get coffee until after checking in which is like an hour and a half from the airport.

As a side note, I’m in a third world country and going to an island. They will totally have coffee there, but i might not have access until later in the day.

[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

I totally get it. When I travel I take caffeine gum. So I don't have to worry about finding coffee or resort to a energy drink. Instant coffee I drink instead of soda at home. Lol.

[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Same issue but with sleep time 😱

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

And there's always Adderall for those of us that can't stand coffee

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 9 months ago

you fixed the bug by installing java(coffee)

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