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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 110 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They don't think the president has immunity.
They think one specific former president has immunity.

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 8 months ago

No, they dont think Trump has immunity, they just want SCOTUS to deliberate on that question to delay Trumps case.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

You could have stooped at "they don't think."

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Are you taking about republican politicians or the voters?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

I think your statement is a little too general. I suspect many would be interested in a dictator president Trump. Even if it is irrational.

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 95 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Schrodinger's Immunity. It's unknown whether or not it exists until it's observed to be useful to the right people.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

"Hey Jack, say hello to my little friend."

- Dark Brandon

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 79 points 8 months ago

It is like arguing with a toddler - they KNOW, they are just trying to see if they can get away with it.

[-] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This argument is extremely disingenuous. The Republicans claim that a president has immunity unless investigated and impeached by Congress. And this is exactly what they are fruitlessly flailing around, trying to do. So this is not the gotcha the meme claims it is.

[-] bort@sopuli.xyz 40 points 8 months ago

“A president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him [or] her to properly function. Any mistake, even if well intended, would be met by almost certain indictment by the opposing party at term end.

“Even events that ‘cross the line’ must fall under total immunity, or it will be years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/18/trump-claims-total-complete-immunity-president-truth-social

[-] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 8 months ago

Please always add the person who is quoted. These are Trump's words, while we are discussing what many Republicans are publicly claiming. Of course Trump wants to go way further.

[-] bort@sopuli.xyz 30 points 8 months ago

4 years ago your distinction may be justified, but today trump does speak for the republican party. A significant part of them does support him and agrees with his views.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

He is the person they all chose to represent themselves, so, yes, that is what the large majority of Repubs agree with.

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

There is no way in hell those are Trump's words. He couldn't write something that coherent, straightforward and understandable if his life depended on it. At least not anymore, as perhaps he was once more coherent.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Probably Steven Miller. Most of the coherent awful shit seems to come from that Nazi fucks brain nowadays. Pretty sure he's one of McConnell's horcruxes.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

From criminal prosecution. Noone is arguing the POTUS can't be impeached. We shit on republicans for being ignorant and uninformed, but you're either being ignorant and uninformed or intentionally pedantic.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 24 points 8 months ago

But with immunity, the president could simply assassinate anyone in congress who would vote to impeach

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

That's fine, they know a Dem wouldn't do that. When a Repub eventually does execute members of Congress, they assume they'll be spared.

[-] lewdian69@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Trump was impeached. Twice

[-] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

He had two impeachment trials, and two acquittals, he was impeached twice and essentially found not guilty. Had he been found guilty in an impeachment trial that presumably would be the penalty to face compared to criminal charges. I am not arguing that it is a correct position, only that its the stated position.

[-] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

It scares me for our future that you have so many downvotes for speaking openly and truthfully, while so many incorrect and nonsense takes are nothing but dozens of upvotes (ie Trump is barred from running because its his third term). That this platform seems to skew substantially more educated than most and seems to react this negatively to truth and positively to misinformation actually has me hoping I’m interacting with bots as the alternatives are scarier.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

No no, not that President just their picks.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago

Well, most still don't believe he's president, so it's logical in their illogical worldview.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Which is funny because how is Trump running for a third term?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

I think we have established that his Math is a special kind of math.

[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

They act so stupidly one could think they're seriously mentally impaired. Like a 5 year old literally on steroids.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago

That's what it looks like from your perspective because you value honesty and integrity. They don't. They value white supremacism and hierarchy. Honestly and integrity are cast aside the nanosecond they conflict with hierarchy.

Consider all of their actions from a perspective assuming white supremacist hierarchies were more important than integrity. It all magically becomes consistent.

[-] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Funny you'd mention that...

[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Republicans can investigate all they want. The President still has immunity, and if Trump's lawyers are correct, have them killed by Seal Team Six when they accuse the President.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

The Democrats are playing “slappers only” vs. fully armed Republicans

[-] mellowheat@suppo.fi 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unfortunately career politicians like Biden respect and honor the traditions and norms. Even if Trump suddenly managed to give the sitting president 100% power to do anything that is physically possible, I don't think he'd order a nuclear strike on Mar-A-Lago.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

Well yeah, nuclear fallout would be a consideration. Probably better to just use one of those hellfire missiles that have knives on it.

[-] Zorsith 5 points 8 months ago

I mean, it's Florida, would anyone notice? /s

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Such a totally unnecessary, totally awesome thing that really exists because (eagle noise)

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

It kinda makes sense if you just want to take out one guy. A regular missile is going to blow up the room and maybe collapse the building, killing a whole bunch of people. A missile that has it's explosives removed won't do that, but it could miss the target. But if you put some knives on it, it'll expand the area of death just enough that there's a high probability of killing the target (even with a near miss), but with no explosives it won't take out the building.

Just a bizarre aspect of war. If you want to reduce civilian casualties you gotta put fucking knives on your missiles.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Biden needs to open up a can a whoop ass.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The slightly less regressive party does not have a can to open up.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Biden has the power of the presidency.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago
[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

And yet, it is not over. More to do!

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

If it weren't for contradictions they'd have no dic at all

[-] Teon@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

GOP: "Illegal Immigrants are taking all our jobs."
also
GOP: "Illegal Immigrants are bleeding our welfare system dry."

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Classic tactic of fascists: Their enemies (read: scapegoats) are simultaneously weak and strong.

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