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About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 124 points 11 months ago

Posobiec, who helped popularize the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC’s opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.

They’re not sending their brightest, folks. Many such examples.

Seriously though, I didn’t have a pizzagate guy openly advocating fascism at CPAC on my doomsday bingo card, yet here we are.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 11 months ago

There's a non-zero chance that they actually are sending their brightest.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

And that their brightest are as retarded as these retards.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Hey big dog, we don't use the R word anymore. It was hard for me, man. Seriously. I slipped just a cpl wks ago. Personally, now I just use expletives to send the message home, e. g., fucking morons, total fucking idiots, shit for brains dumbass fuckface, etc. If you're worried about soap in your mouth, perhaps, jabronis, jackass, schmuck face, imbecile.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 105 points 11 months ago

"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.

Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.

[-] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Some of those who work forces...

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Sir this is a conservative oligarchy not a Wendy's. Rules are only for anyone we declare to be too far left.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

FBI would be the ones with jurisdiction, and they are mostly right wing. There's never been a director of the FBI that wasn't registered Republican. That should tell you just how likely they are to take this threat seriously.

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[-] Teon@kbin.social 83 points 11 months ago

Republicans are criminals, cheaters, liars and traitors.
And I have proof, just watch and listen to everything they do.
They HATE America and want to rule it with a sick 2000 year old genocidal religion.
Always vote for the candidate to does things to help Americans, and chooses human rights over fascist control laws.

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[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 76 points 11 months ago

Isn't this what the second amendment is actually for?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 22 points 11 months ago

The second amendment tells you what it's for - militias. But what are militias for? The constitution tells us that too.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.

So, no, the second amendment is about a system to suppress insurrections, not commit them. You've been lied to.

We have revolutions every 2-4 years. Insurrections are not about the will of the people, they are about subverting the will of the people.

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[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

And the way the winds blowing is why the #1 demographic for first time firearm purchasers throughout covid has been liberals.

[-] himmyguap@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago
[-] anon987@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

Time to start killing fascists.

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Italian here, sometimes I wonder why we ever stopped, it should be an ongoing thing

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

I used to get scared to talk about weed on the phone. You don't disparage a public figure with a hint of violence for fear...

How TF is this not enough to lock these motherfuckers up? This is the God damn United States of America and these treasonists are threatening our government. Fuck "soft Democrats" - this isn't about policy. These criminals are promising a coup against our democracy. Why aren't they in jail? I'm seriously asking. Where the fuck is law enforcement????

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 42 points 11 months ago

There are a bunch of Supreme Court rulings which basically said the KKK can advocate for violence in general so long as they don't lay out specifics. That's what these folks hide behind

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Holy shit. When was that??

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The biggie is Brandenburg vs Ohio, from 1969

Where that really falls down is when you have social media algorithms selectively showing inflammatory speech to the audience most likely to act on it. This means that inflammatory speech which wouldn't have caused violence in the 1960s is incredibly likely to do so now.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Republicans, the party of treason.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 41 points 11 months ago

"That probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivins.

[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

These idiots probably only associate democracy with democrats so they cheer

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

No, they know exactly what they're cheering for.

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[-] don@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago

Wonder what they’d do if we started proclaiming and raucously celebrating “The End of the Republic”.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago

Lmao I can imagine some of them are thinking democracy = democrats.

[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

I'll take him at his word. I don't doubt he'd follow through with what he's saying.

But also the headline sucks. He has a heavy sarcasm to his voice like he's mocking liberal's and the media's portrayal of him and "rabid cheers" isn't how I would describe the sound of the reaction in the video.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Yeah this is the same kind of thing they did at another one of these events in the past with the whole "Ladies and gentlemen, we are all domestic terrorists." thing. It was meant as a joke to make fun of what the liberals were saying but at the same time it wasn't entirely inaccurate.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 33 points 11 months ago

How the fuck is this a thing

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

They want a crowd and they cheer the thrill of battle. Because they believe they are on the right side.

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I still can't understand how the political left could accept that their opponents dub themselves "right". Do they not understand that "right" also means "correct"? It's a marketing failure from the get go, regardless of etymology. We should start calling the political right something different, like "wrong". Or "party of assholes". Change my view.

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[-] Numberone@startrek.website 33 points 11 months ago

Does anyone have a link to this actual speech, whenever I hear something this damning, I assume something is wildly out of context.

[-] ToastedPlanet 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here you go.

LIVE REPLAY: CPAC Day Two 4:48:38

edit: never mind, that is his CPAC speech where he promises to destroy to democracy

edit: People only seem to be reporting on the clip linked in the article that was of the panel in that conference room. There doesn't seem to be a recording of the entire panel online currently.

[-] dyc3@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ok he did say it verbatim but it sounds like he's being sarcastic.

Edit: y'all I never said that this was a responsible example of a politician communicating with the public.

[-] ToastedPlanet 39 points 11 months ago

He's not being sarcastic. He's artificially injecting sarcasm into his voice so he can say what he really believes. He wants to jail Democrats and pardon the insurrectionists. He defines everything that is beneficial about our society as evil. He's talks like he lives in alternate reality. He wants to tear down our liberal democracy and replace it with a christofascist dictatorship. It's not a joke.

It's time to stop giving these guys a free pass when they say they're just joking or speak in a sarcastic way. These people are unironically telling you what they want to do. Believe them when they say they want to destroy our democracy.

[-] Muehe@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago

He’s not being sarcastic. He’s artificially injecting sarcasm into his voice so he can say what he really believes.

Say what? Did you watch your own video? Because I followed your link, watched it for ~3min, and he is clearly 100% being sarcastic. Not just in tone of voice, it's clear from the content. No doubt about it. When laying out his "plan to destroy democracy" it's a laundry list of points from the stop-the-steal bullshit. Among that:

  • Ban paper ballots
  • Replace with mail-in voting and dropboxes
  • Remove election day
  • No voter-ID requirements
  • Arrest opposition leader 4 times (this is a Trump reference)
  • Imprison protesters who don't like democracy being abolished (January 6th reference)
  • Flood the nation with millions of "invaders" to vote in their favour

All things the Republicans accused the Democrats of doing during the 2020 election. Then he ends with saying:

This is their "democracy" [doing air-quotes]. This is the regime we will overturn. They say democracy but they mean authoritarianism, and we know it.

I mean the guy went off the deep end and is obviously insane, but there is simply no doubt that he was being sarcastic here and that the measures he cites are not his actual plan. A Republican letting millions of people into the country voluntarily should have given it away to even the densest of viewers.

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[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Republicans already tried to end democracy when they tried to stop the transfer of power through violence in the last election.

Now they're just coming out and saying it "we're terrorists" and "we'll end democracy"

This guy: "they're being sarcastic".

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[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.

  • Will Durant
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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 23 points 11 months ago

200 years ago, there would be a rope shortage right about now.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Basically MAGA Republicans showing their true faces. They know that they don't have much of a future without cheating or dropping democracy altogether.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

They are taking themselves down.

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