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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 116 points 8 months ago

I'm getting really sick of this meme format. I get it, Trump is way worse than Biden, but that doesn't mean we can't acknowledge that they're both insanely old. We'll all try to toss Biden's corpse over the finish line a second time, but stop trying to gaslight us into thinking that electing an 81 year old is normal.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 84 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's possible to criticize Biden and be unhappy about his age without acting like him and trump are equally as bad, which a lot of "centrists" do to justify not voting. Those people are the ones being criticized in this post.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 8 months ago

Yep. Trump voters don't give a shit. They'll vote no matter what. The people pushing the idea of not voting out of protest or whatever aren't doing it honestly, at least not the first ones. The first ones are trying to get Trump elected. They might convince some fools to also push the same message without following the agenda.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago

I'm getting tired of people going on and on about their ages as if it's something nobody noticed before. As if it's going to change the situation.

A lot of Americans like voting for old fuddy duddies. You can't control how other people vote, you can only control how you will vote. Old people vote and young people tend not to. You aren't going change anything in a democratic process by not voting.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

86% of Americans think Biden is too old to be President. 62% of Americans think Trump is too old to be President. 59% of Americans think both are too old to be President. Most Americans, by a wide margin, do not like voting for, "old fuddy daddies."

Very few people are saying, "don't vote," but most people are saying, "don't allow these men to run the country." This meme is either targeting a very niche person or creating a strawman for the majority of people by equating, "these men are too old," with, "these men are the same, don't vote."

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Old people vote and young people tend not to. You aren't going change anything in a democratic process by not voting.

The presidential election isn't democratic. In fact, it's antidemocratic by design.

With that said, you won't change anything voting between two conservatives either.

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[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Do you honestly think that anything will convince the DNC to forward ANY candidate except the one that already beat cheetolini?

I mean, I'm voting for blue despite my misgivings because I KNOW how dangerous twice impeached seditionists are to our democracy, but I am not doing it with enthusiasm.

The DNC will never allow an actual progressive anywhere near the presidency.

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[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As a Tolkien fan and someone who hates voting for octagenarians, this post triggers me more than I'd like to admit.

Equating the upcoming election to this isn't a choice between Saruman and Gandalf, it's between Saruman and Sauron, but instead of picking either of those guys, you pick Aragorn, who Gandalf really likes.

So what we should do, instead of voting for either, is ask ~~Gandalf~~ Bernie Sanders who he'd like to be president and vote for that guy.

Also, the whole "line of kings is broken" portion of this joke feels way to close to an RFK Jr. joke for my taste. The man's insane.

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[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 months ago

Remember that any criticism of Biden, no matter how legitimate, is definitely pro-trump Russian propaganda. God forbid people don't just want to vote against something.

At the end of the day, this is how it is. The system is absurdly broken. We couldn't possibly be here if it wasn't. The fact that they keep shoving Biden at us doesn't mean that we shouldn't choose him over the much more overt fascist Trump, but it also doesn't mean that we should accept him.

No matter who's elected, everyone should fucking riot.

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[-] SqueakyBeaver 11 points 8 months ago

oh is that what this meme is about?

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 105 points 8 months ago

Sure, saruman raped someone and has literally been committing fraud his entire life, but gandalf rides horses.

What's up with that?

Horses have four legs. I only have two.

Horses are weird.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

I don't remember galdalf aiding a genocide?

[-] Contestant@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

He did from the perspective of the Orcs

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 34 points 8 months ago

#DefundGondor

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I also don't remember him eating lizard legs on a barbecue stick.

Weird that he committed neither of those sins within his literary journeys, right?

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Strange to compare Biden, who is actively aiding in a genocide, to Gandalf, then, isn't it?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not at all.

One emissary of a significant power refusing to directly intervene in, though indirectly aid, a specific power within an international war that they are not directly engaging with,

compared to another emissary of a significant power refusing to directly intervene in, though indirectly aid, a specific power within an international war that they are not directly engaging with.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Indirectly aid? INDIRECTLY??

Aiding doesn't get more fucking direct than sending them the bombs, guidance systems and fuses they use to commit genocide with FFS!

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Certainly gandalf takes a much more direct role by actively engaging the nazgul, goblins and balrog, but his role is deliberately indirect to the grand narrative.

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago

When did he forget he was called Gandalf?

You mean after he literally died trying to save the one being that could save middle earth?

[-] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 63 points 8 months ago
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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

Wrong franchise

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 26 points 8 months ago

"Gandalf? Yes, that was what they used to call me, Gandalf the Grey. That was my name. I am Gandalf the White, and I come back to you now at the turn of the tide."

[-] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago
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[-] Steak@lemmy.ca 28 points 8 months ago

Omg why is the president 406 years old wtf guys.

[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago
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[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

OK but gandalf's been backing a genocide (of the orcs)

[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I mean... if the orcs weren't illegally crossing the border.....

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[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Dumbledore

If we are running someone that old, can we please run Dumbledore? Fought against evil his entire adult life, took steps to make education available to all witches and wizards equally regardless of if you were pure blood or muggleborn, taught forgiveness and understood that people could change, for better and for worse. Also taught his students well enough to fend off a full-scale attack from a hoard of adult casters, giants, and a fucking lich without needing his intervention.

(yes, I am talking about Bernie... The only old fuck that is still worthy of holding office)

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[-] marxistsynths19@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

Don’t remember Gandalf supporting and funding a genocide.

[-] Catastrophic235@midwest.social 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm beginning to believe that a large portion of this society doesn't actually see anything wrong with genocide, they just don't like the word and are content with telling themselves that the victims deserved it.

Isreal and the US government know what they are doing, the killing is deliberate, it is the only viable explanation for things like the treatment of UNRWA and the clear targeting of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank. Claiming that these targets are somehow militants would be laughable if the consequences weren't so saturated with human blood.

It's obvious to me that both parties would make the same choices here, party politics are only to blame here as far as they enabled themselves to be so throughly penetrated by foreign interests. Only real difference with Trumptard VS genocide Joe is that trump would be more transparent with his support for genocide.

[-] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago
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[-] xylogx@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Rudy “Worm-Tongue” Giuliani

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

"[His voice was] low and melodious, its very sound an enchantment [...] it was a delight to hear the voice speaking, all that it said seemed wise and reasonable, and desire woke in them by swift agreement to seem wise themselves ... for those whom it conquered the spell endured while they were far away and ever they heard that soft voice whispering and urging them."

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kinda tired seeing everyone comparing benevolent and pure hearted fictional characters with Biden with this dumb ass format.

Neither Yoda nor Gandalf used their position as a superpower to approve a genocide and play geopolitics.

Moreover, ignoring the fact that Gandalf isn't human and Yoda is an alien. For their respective "species" they are powerful people who aren't deathbed old. Biden is a walking talking mummy who can't form his own sentences, and Trump covers his geriatrics by talking exclusively in simple English.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We would be in trouble if the orange stain was channeling Saruman.

[-] SaintWacko@midwest.social 11 points 8 months ago

Would that make Putin Sauron?

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

We would be in more trouble if Saruman used his voice of command to talk like trump

"I know the best spells, Grumpy Gandalf is very very very jealous of my tower, it's a wonderful tower, Orthanc, very exclusive and I hold the only key."

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[-] Zengen@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

However they aren't our only choices we also have radagast ( RFK ) LOL

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Except in this case, one of them is activly aiding and supporting a genoicide, has done absolutly nothing to undo the damages done by the previous guy, acualy on many fronts increased his plans, including but not limited to the wall, the deportations, the kids in cages ECT, and has done next to nothing to punish the insurectionists.

There is no real significant material difrence betweent he 2 parties, nor between the 2 canidates,

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