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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 205 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't forget "This file has already been downloaded, do you want to download it again?"

And the options are to cancel or download again but you can't open the already existing file from the prompt, so you might as well just download that fucking PDF for the fifth time since it's not as if you knew where the bloody thing's been downloaded anyway!

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 61 points 11 months ago

Click the name. It doesn't look like an option, because there are buttons for download or cancel, but the file name is also a link to the file.

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[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 months ago

you guys don't simply have a folder called "Downloads" where everything goes?

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have a Downloads folder where some things go. :(

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[-] Risk@feddit.uk 17 points 11 months ago

This made me laugh more than the meme. Thanks.

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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 87 points 11 months ago

Have you checked your "Downloads"-folder?

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

I'm just checking this meme instead

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not always, though. Some apps save images to /Pictures, and in there, some of them make their own folder. It really is kinda half baked.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Sometimes it's their own folder in their own sandboxed app directory. A lot of apps do that now to avoid permissions issues. Like the GBA emulator I use no longer puts game saves in the user's root directory so you can't even see them without a USB connection to a PC, and even if you do that it's extreme obfuscated.

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[-] dadGPT@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

where exactly is the downloads folder?

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

/storage/emulated/0/Download

that's what total commander told me

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 11 months ago

Let's not talk about the iPhone file explorer lol.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago
[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 11 months ago

There’s literally a thing you can click on called, get this…

FILES

It’s where all of the files on the device live, at least non-photo/video files.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I had an iPhone back when the 3Gs was the newest phone, then an iPod touch 4g after that. None of them had a file explorer while my android phone from the time did. I didn't know they had added one until recently when I saw it on my roommate's phone. So they probably didn't know iOS had one

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

You’re referring to some ancient history at this point. iPhones may look like they always have, but they’ve come a long way over the years.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

I was told iphones don't even use files.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago

As a unixy based OS it is all files

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[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is turning a generation of people tech illiterate. The young people I interact with are smart because they're all employed by a tech company and mentored by us dinosaurs, but I've heard some horror stories of the tech literacy of the average young person.

Touchscreen was a mistake.

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

I'm an IT teacher at a community centre, I genuinely never thought I would see the day when a student younger than me enrolled. I wrongly assumed my role as a public educator would just fade out as younger generations required generally less training around computers.

Obviously courses in disability service centres would remain, and accredited training for people to kick off or retarget their careers would still exist.

But the person at the local library who meets twice a week and teaches grandma how to close the tabs on her phone felt like a job that was destined to die.

I'm in my 30s and this year I have a few teenagers in my class. The conversations are hilarious, they don't know how to read a file location adreess or open a program that isn't pinned to the taskbar, but at the same time, I don't know how to access the notifications bar on an iPhone or quickly find the wifi settings without going through general settings....because I went from windows to 98, to a blackberry, to an Android, just like they went from an ipad toddler to an iPhone teen, and only now are they having Windows 11 thrown at them, and of all the computers to try and learn to use, this wouldn't be my first recommendation (but it's what our government funds us to teach 🤷‍♀️)

The skill divide is so hard to explain too. My elderly students just stare blankly at one screen, overwhelmed and confused, unsure how to recognise anything. Nothing stands out as a link, or a click able button, because the entire visual landscape is new to them. There is often a lot of hand holding which can be frustrating especially when you made a huge breakthrough in their confidence and independence only to have come in the next week feeling insecure about their skills because they've forgotten a little bit, or had a bad spam caller over the weekend who made them want to never touch a computer again.

Then the teens, who know what links look like and generally what they do will rush ahead, they may not know what it is exactly they're trying to do, but they think they know what end result is expected and they generally know how to avoid catastrophic issues so they just barrel ahead, I'll see them make 40 clicks a second for something that usually takes 2, because they're throwing spaghetti at the wall.

I had a project last week. Dead simple. Save a linked file to a target location, import the file into another program through either drag and drop or browsing for the file, then change 1 thing, and export the final file into another target location, as specified on the activity sheet.

Barely 5 minutes in, I'm still helping Brenda get her mouse dongle plugged in, and one of the teens is finished. And yes, they have every file I asked for, and every edit I asked for, but both are just sitting in the downloads folder. And now we're at the end looking back, the teen is confused because they have the edited file that is required to "finish*, how is it wrong, and I'm trying to explain why skipping the steps about target locations means they'll have to start again because this activity is all about target locations and I don't actually give two shits about this file I just need them to put things in and out of a folder until they can explain to me "a folder is a container" and not just stare into space because a folder is a black hole on their phone things they save go to until they need them again and just download them again.

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 16 points 11 months ago

Stuff like that are infuriating. I'm in high school and there's an animation class.

The teacher has very clearly told the class about a million times to save the files in OneDrive/2024/Animation/

People are still saving it in downloads or documents or somewhere else and then saying they forgot where they saved it and did nothing the whole class.

[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’m a Millenial, and it’s been wild to see how i’m basically near the top of the bell curve when it comes to understanding the basics of using computers. Like you, I thought general computer illiteracy would die with the Boomers… but here we are.

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[-] explodicle@local106.com 41 points 11 months ago

For better or worse, we're going the way of "the car guy". It used to be something everyone needed to know a little bit about, but now fades into the background with a handful of experts.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 38 points 11 months ago

Touch input isn't the problem. Hiding the file system is.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

To be fair, Android is absolutely atrocious whenever files are involved.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

It’s either in /sdcard/Downloads or /external/emulated/0/android/data/com.google.chrome/Downloads. Couldn’t be easier.

[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

Couldn’t be easier.

Would certainly be easier if there wasn't an or in your statement.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Best I can do is three more ors.

[-] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Except when it is not....

For example Boost saves photo is some photo folder somewhere.

The only way i can find anything is using a photo app and scanning my entire phone to find things.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I was being facetious. Yeah, every app saves into a different location. It’s bonkers.

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[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Android has ways for app devs to specify where files get saved. App devs just usually don't give a shit, because they want to write a single lowest common codebase for android and iOS.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 49 points 11 months ago

Developers not bothering with Android features because they don't exist on iOS is both infuriating and gives me IE6 era vibes.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

IE6 era vibes

But… this is a nearly opposite situation, no? Microsoft added a bunch of their own shit with no attempt at standardization, and instead of simply not using those features, a ton of websites started making IE a hard requirement.

[-] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

file - downloads

me: /storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.mozilla.firefox/files/Download or /storage/3564-3130/Android/data/org.mozilla.firefox/files/Download here I come!

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

ITT: people who have no working knowledge of file system navigation complain about the lack of such knowledge

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

honestly it's not this, is just the fact that android puts so much shit in between you and whatever you're trying to do.

The concept of downloading a file is simple, it's courtesy to tell you where it downloads at the very least. Android doesnt exactly have the most sane of defaults.

dont get me wrong, im a linux user, im a certified power user, even i can't stand android.

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[-] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago

Isn't the opposite?

Saving in downloads on Android doesn't need additional storage permissions, so apps will save in the big "trash can" downloads folder

Instead, who the fuck knows where iOS saved that file, where every app is sandboxed and isolated

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

The worst is when an android app is clearly an iOS port. E.g Patreon app saves all files under a generic name rather than the one you get when saving the same file from a browser, because I guess on iOS it just goes into your camera reel without a filename anyway. Or how Bluesky app just straight up says "saved to your camera reel" and puts it in your DCIM folder, with no option to specify a different location.

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I feel like this meme only makes sense for people who don't know basic file system navigation...

Literally never had this problem, not once, starting at Android 2.3 when I got my first android phone. It's literally just files and folders, like any other OS.

Even when dealing with apps that don't have a way to check where a file is, any file manager app worth a damn, will have a way to easily find the most recently saved/modified files.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

So I had a problem with this, and I am a cd.. cd/ format . person who loves computer file systems.

I think what messed me up is that certain apps have different default save folders, and I wouldn't know where they were or forget.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago
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[-] Yn37@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

https://www.f-droid.org/en/packages/name.lmj001.savetodevice/ I just use share option and select this app it just saves where ever u want...

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

android is actually such a fucking mess, dont even get me started.

WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT .nomedia FILES WERE A GOOD IDEA? WHO, WHICH ONE OF YOU WAS IT?

i would genuinely rather use linux on my phone, and im not even joking, android is just the worst.

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[-] lud@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Most (all?) Iapps save images in /Pictures/[appname]

Photos taken with the camera are stored in a subfolder under/DCIM/ for example /DCMI/camera.

All my downloaded files end up in /Downloads/

The path to downloads is technically /storage/emulated/0/Downloads

But that doesn't really ever matter because /storage/emulated/0/ is treated as root in at least the two file explorers I have.

If I mount another storage device it will probably be mounted in some weird path, but too don't matter since file browsers will hide that.

The only time it matters for me is when using termux. The home directory has some weird ass path (/data/data/com.termux/files/home) when using termux which can make it annoying to transfer files. BUT Android storage gets mounted as ~/storage/emulated/0/. So transferring files from downloads to termux home, is as simple as cp ~/storage/emulated/0/downloads/file.txt ~/

Accessing the files from an app is very annoying and complicated, and that's if not completely restricted.

Accessing the dirs you often need is very easy

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