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[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it is so weird, that you have to use extra tools to disable telemetry and unwanted features in windows systems. Why is windows not giving me a central option to decide on those things? Is it maybe because they do not want me to decide for myself and therefore splitting the places where I need to disable all that unwanted stuff as opaque as possible? Can they be more obvious that they do not value your opinion on how you want your OS to behave?

Quit Windows. It is a dead end and get worst with every release.

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

want your OS

That's the problem, it's not your OS.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

It's a shame. I really love Windows 10. It's fast and the UI's ergonomy is near perfect.

On my work laptop we recently had to switch to Windows 11 and it's a fucking pain to use. You have to jump through so many hoops and do extra clicks to do what you want. And the start menu has become completely useless. And I hate the gaps and rounded corners everywhere. And that's just on the surface. Performance is piss poor and you have all that crap spying on you to collect your usage data.

The day Windows 10 becomes unsupported is the day I go 100% Linux.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Forced to use it at work, too, and only by the grace of being in the IT department do I have the ability to make it less shitty.

There's registry entries to restore the full context menu, and PowerToys Run has effectively become my defacto start menu, though obviously you need to use the keyboard so it's not a perfect UI replacement. Meanwhile for searching, I've got Everything running and set global keyboard shortcuts/touchpad gestures to it. Maybe I'll grab an old gaming mouse and shortcut them to the extra buttons.

They finally implemented never combine on the taskbar, and it's...tolerable, but buggy and still resizes things for no reason

Unfortunately I've yet to find a way to get some damn 90° angles back. I can not wait for a few years down the line when we finally swing away from this Apple-chasing "bubbles with an inch between them on a white/black field" design aesthetic. I'm tired of everything looking like a toy, especially at the cost of its actual utility.

And not just a toy, the same toy. It's seriously Corporate Memphis levels of lifeless, forced design with no character, creativity, or ingenuity.

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[-] ballskicker@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has been exactly my stance as well apart from ever having used Win11. Never did and never plan to, downloaded Mint a few months ago to start getting familiar with it. Turns out I'm not real great at technical stuff but I'm getting there. Dual monitors was kind of a booger and now I'm trying to figure out how to install some games since Bottles is being a real wiener about Battle.Net. I'm glad there's so many resources and forums out there but I still hope some version of Linux gets dumbed down a little more before Win10 sunsets to make the transition easier for us blue collar folk

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[-] SnotFlickerman 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

Trust me, I'm not installing Windows as the Operating System for my Children's brains.

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[-] RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 year ago

I removed it by installing Linux

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Annnnnnnnnnnd there it is!

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like clockwork! Almost as reliable as the OS /s

Linux has no mainstream advertising so word-of-mouth is the only way it gets adopted.

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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 54 points 1 year ago

Can you imagine installing Windows and having to install 10 seperate programs just to fix all the issues with it?

[-] GlitchZero@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Every day with Windows is like this. It’s a fucking nightmare. I don’t know what else to do.

[-] lukstru@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago
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[-] DreitonLullaby@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Truly Truly, I say unto you, install Linux; it's what you really must do.

https://linuxmint.com/

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[-] trslim@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago

Truly the Bethesda of operating systems.

[-] boolean@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

install random third party software that may be sniffing or leaking information to remove shady features from windows that sniff and leak information.

windows sucks.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

The app is open source so you can review the not-leaking-your-information that it does yourself.

Windows on the other hand ...

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I wonder how many apps this actually happens for, my guess is "way less than people think"

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That they leak information? I work in commercial software development and I have to do a lot of open source security reviews. The answer is: virtually none.

Private, closed-source software on the other hand... If it could sniff your farts and send the smell to advertisers, it would; in almost all cases.

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[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

I used to have a power shell script that a coworker gave me that would uninstall a huge number of services and apps on windows, change a bunch of config settings etc.

I've always wished there were a way to roll out a stripped windows release as an open source project without getting sued.

[-] lickmygiggle@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago
[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's pretty cool I just used Enterprise Edition and ran Powershell to uninstall shit. Also Chris Titus Tech's tool is quite nice as well.

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[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

There is. It’s called slipstreaming and IT people have been doing it for decades

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[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Although im part of the Linux crowd, if you’re tired of reapplying debloat scripts every update, you could get the W10 IoT LTSC edition that only has security patches with no updates. You will have to pirate it though.

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[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

They keep inching me towards Linux with all this bullshit

[-] ___@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Just make the jump. I keep a cheap n100 box as a backup.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 33 points 1 year ago

I've no idea what MS are even doing with all this shit.

I'm like 95% sure I had an AI icon in the search bar yesterday, and today it's a briefcase. 🤷

[-] lunachocken@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

I guess for some reason it decided to pack up

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[-] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 1 year ago
[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 76 points 1 year ago

Sigh.

Sure.

Now how do you: CAD, exchange, Publisher, Access, Excel (no, open versions of excel still don't come close, they can't even do tables), Onenote/SharePoint, etc, etc.

And Linux is as messed up in its own way. Power management is off by default, so it kills your laptop battery (at least on every version I've tested). Notifications that you can't silence without looking up a command line.

No, the learning curve is still too steep to recommend to people who I will have to support.

And while the Open/Libre office apps are "compatible", people don't have time to waste dealing with the ways they whack a document. Libre couldn't even properly display the spreadsheet I use to setup a new machine, with 3 sheets and a few hundred lines, because tables.

"Switch to Linux" is a simplistic answer that doesn't address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM's and docker.

[-] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

They hated him for he spoke the truth...

[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

“Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

"Let me debate you about why you shouldn't use Windows" as if I want to use Windows, people who have no experience with the software in my industry dropping alternatives. Even had someone debate me after saying I'm a sysadmin in a mixed environment, and how I alone should just move the whole company and all our software vendors to Linux.

[-] onion@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

What learning curve? Whether my mom clicks on the Firefox icon in Ubuntu or Windows makes zero difference

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude literally just explained the issues facing actual workers that use computers for productive activities, not your mother looking up tendie recipes.

[-] TheVillageGuy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 year ago

What's for dinner tonight, I wonder

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[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

What's slowing down Linux adoption?

Is it the monopoly Microsoft has on all PC hardware and strong relationships it has with desktop software partners that make leaving windows near impossible?

No, it must be the users.

/s insert principal Skinner meme

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Commercial support for it.

On a personal level, I installed Ubuntu for the first time in over a decade and found the experience worse. Previously I could download everything I needed either through the package manager or deb file easily. Ow I ran into a new flat pack type installer that has failing dependencies that weren’t found through command line either. The new mouse driver in gnome was hot garbage too with the touchpad sensitivity so high I couldn’t scroll more than a page and a half at even the lightest touch. No settings to change it either. Windows is far easier at this point.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Problem I've had with all these "fixes" the issues come back or the OS craps the bed

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I literally have a windows 10 installed that I haven't logged in since before AI came up. WTF! I can only imagine the massive update when I try to login next time.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

You should just login in to a linux distro instead. (╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Every fucking thread that is even remotely about "Windows"

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You know you're on Lemmy, right? This is how it works here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

Another way of removing windows ai bloat is by using balenaetcher and an usb stick

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[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The option to install Opera should be removed.

[-] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

I use AtlasOS to debloat and optimize (disabling animations, annoying requests and so on) Windows 10/11

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[-] progettarsi@feddit.it 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

WE DON'T FUCKING CARE THAT YOU'RE USING LINUX

[-] optissima@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah but we care that youre not.

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