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[-] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 205 points 1 year ago

Sorry, what's .Net again?

The runtime? You mean .Net, or .Net Core, or .Net Framework? Oh, you mean a web framework in .Net. Was that Asp.Net or AspNetcore?

Remind me why we let the "Can't call it Windows 9" company design our enterprise language?

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 year ago

Can't call it Windows 9

But that actually made sense! They care about backwards compatibility.

For those not in the know: some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

[-] puttputt@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

The reason they checked that it started with "Windows 9" was because it worked for "Windows 95" and "Windows 98"

[-] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

It makes sense why they did it, but their messed up versioning was the cause to begin with. You should always assume Devs will cut corners in inappropriate ways.

[-] pkill@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

They'll cut corners the more the shittier APIs and ABIs you provide

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An often repeated urban legend that has no basis in reality. Software checking the version of Windows gets "6.1" for Windows 7 and "6.2" for Windows 8. The marketing name doesn't matter and is different.

[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And for the same reason they went straight from ~~2.1~~ 3.x to 5.0 when they renamed .Net Core to just .Net. Versions ~~3.x and~~ 4.x would have been too easy to confuse (either manually or programmatically) with the old .Net Framework versions that were still in use, especially for Desktop applications.

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[-] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

This is a myth. Windows doesn't even have an API to give you the marketing name of the OS. Internally, Windows 95 is version 4.0 and Windows 98 is 4.1. The API to get the version returns the major and minor version separately, so to check for Windows 95 you'd check if majorVersion = 4 and minorVersion = 0.

Edit: This is the return type from the API: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winnt/ns-winnt-osversioninfoexa

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[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

.net core is not a thing anymore in case somebody it's not aware, now is just .net. (unless you use really old version of course).

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[-] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Because they have dozens of years of experience! They didn't learn anything from it, but they have it!

[-] Pfnic@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago

I have the same issue with Java. Oracle JDK, Open JDK or some other weird distribution? Enteprise Servers or a Framework like Springboot? It's always easier if you're familiar with the technology.

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[-] kogasa@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I really don't think it's that bad. The only weird thing is .NET Core becoming just .NET in version 5.

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[-] neutron@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago

I scream silently everytime.

May I introduce you to Usb 3.x renaming?

3.0, 3.1Gen1, 3.2Gen1, 3.2Gen1x1 are the 5Gbps version.

3.1Gen2, 3.2Gen2, 3.2Gen1x2, 3.2Gen2x1 are the 10Gbps version.

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[-] envelope@kbin.social 150 points 1 year ago

Given that .net was a TLD long before the framework came out, it was a stupid thing to name it. Caused confusion and the inability to Google things right away.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 93 points 1 year ago

Microsoft names many things stupidly.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago

Fuck you forever SQLServer. Transact was perfectly googleable.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Microsoft Azure Blob

(Yes it's a real product they market)

[-] eerongal@ttrpg.network 13 points 1 year ago

I mean, blob (and object storage in general) has been used as a term for a long time. It isn't particularly new, and MS didn't invent it.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's sort of the problem. It's easy to Google S3 since it's a distinct (if obnoxiously short) term. Blob is already an overloaded term.

An example of a great name from Microsoft is Excel, it's relatively short but meaningless so if you Google "Excel Sum" you'll get wonderful results... "Blob Get" is going to get you a lot of random stuff.

Edit: the top result for blob get is accurate on Google but you'll also quickly see this result from that site we all hate:

Need help! How do I get the blob fish, basking shark and dwarf whale?

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[-] arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago
[-] masinko@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

To prevent confusion, I call them "VS Code" and "Visual Studio IDE", because if you say Visual Studio, people assume you mean Visual Studio Code.

[-] jwt@programming.dev 62 points 1 year ago

It's like naming your company x

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 39 points 1 year ago

Like naming a new TLD .zip!

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

It was pretty smart marketing move. Business people hear 'dot net' and nod wisely. Tech people hear 'dot net' and scrunch their faces. Either way people keep talking about Microsoft Java.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

That aligns with their fucked up naming conventions anyway.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 134 points 1 year ago

No, you'll need to contact Kim Dotcom. I am merely Kim Dotnet.

Ok, but we all should admit: .net is a terrible name.

[-] neutron@thelemmy.club 28 points 1 year ago

And then there's .net classic and .net core. Making up two entirely separate names shouldn't be difficult for marketing executives.

[-] dan@upvote.au 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

.NET Core doesn't exist any more. It's just .NET now. I think that changed around the release of .NET 5?

The classic version is mostly legacy at this point too.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Just because it's no longer supported doesn't mean there's not some poor intern refactoring spaghetti backend in a basement somewhere using it.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

Still better than .dot

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I totally agree.socialmedia

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

I can, but due to the extra strains involved the price of this contract will increase.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How many strains does it take to develop using .net? Are we talking high end or ditch weed?

[-] NoLifeKing@ani.social 27 points 1 year ago

We talk about 2 bottles of Cuban Rum and 3 packs of sour gummy worms on top of the pay.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sour? That's top quality, you drive a hard bargain

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

You think that now... Wait 'til I bargain a hard drive.

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can but we’ll need to re negotiate my salary.

[-] twopi@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Well .NET is dead now so I guess .COM and .ORG are dead too?

[-] quackers 11 points 1 year ago

.NET is better than ever wdym

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[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

But we’re an EDU!!!!

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

It's been my experience that the .NET developer will miss the actual statement and take it as an assault on .NET being the best solution for every use case.

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 5 points 1 year ago

Can you spot the error? Johnson went to the trump organization for a professional field.

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