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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.

The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.

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[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 95 points 1 year ago

Ah yes just like all the other stores that "closed due to theft"

Oakland

But then again...

[-] illah@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People here trying to make this about masking bad business decisions etc don’t live in Oakland. I live here, it’s really bad right now.

I was joking with a friend that a lot of Oakland feels like a bad 80s dystopia film…like you know those scenes with hobos warming themselves around a burning oil drum, stripped and burned out cars everywhere, piles of trash, drug addicts and prostitutes wandering around, etc? That’s literally real life in a large part of east Oakland. Like I’ve swear to god seen a half dozen girls at one intersection twerking in the middle of the street on the yellow lines, and one block over is a 5 block long encampment (16th and international/ 12th st).

Like this shit is on Google street view! It’s not hard to find. Follow this road all the way down to Fruitvale ave, it’s like a solid mile of a 3rd world refugee camp.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YTVNJW36gbYTJuY67?g_st=ic

[-] rappo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I was about to comment that I lived in Oakland for 5 years and it really isn't that bad. Like any city, it has its bad parts that you need to avoid. But you cleared it up.

a large part of east Oakland

A large part of east Oakland is bad. Luckily, it's easy to avoid... but not if you already live there.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

I see that No Trespassing sign is working well

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[-] Mellibird@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's like a literal Hoovertown.

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[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Since you mentioned Fruitvale Ave, I just wanna add that Fruitvale Station (2013) is an amazing movie people should check out, well worth a watch. It's by the director Ryan Coogler that did Creed and Black Panther btw.

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[-] krellor@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The crime stats and stories in this case are so bad they'd be comical if it didn't represent desperate people.

Since 2019, police have logged 1,335 incidents in the vicinity of the restaurant on Oakport Street — more than any other location in Oakland, the newspaper reported.

That number includes nine robberies, two commercial burglaries, four domestic violence incidents and 1,174 car break-ins, according to Oakland police data shared with the Chronicle.

I saw elsewhere that a guy got robbed there, came back to do a news interview, and got robbed again. The crime stats mean basically a crime a day at that location.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

I like how they list a single-digit numbers for a few crimes and then 1,174 car break-ins. 9 robberies and 2 burglaries in 4 years is almost nothing, but sounds like car break-ins are basically constant.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oaklander here. Shit has really gone downhill over the past decade. Tents started popping up about 15 years ago, and now some parts of town honestly make District 9 look nice. I see stuff in this down that I never thought I would see in an American city.

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Context: this is what I drive through to get to the hardware store. This street view is 3 years old. It’s actually worse now.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/z3NLJ4wMLqRYc58o9?g_st=ic

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

There’s actually a reason for it. The western Supreme Court (the court you go through before the US Supreme Court) made a ruling about a decade ago that all unhoused people can’t be removed from somewhere if there aren’t enough beds in the city for all unhoused people. So basically we can move guy #5 because there aren’t enough beds in shelters for 2,752 homeless people. Recently even Gavin Newsom was asking them to repeal the decision and was banding together with other western state governors and city mayors as they all say the ruling is unfair.

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[-] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Sounds like they should be building shelters not trying to repeal a law that is designed to help people.

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Contextualizing it with District 9 really paints a bleak dystopia

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's true. I drove truck down there. It literally looks like a warzone. There are clothes lines just hanging from cars everywhere in between tracks for cable cars. RVs on fire. Fires in trunks. It's like Robocop from the 80s was real. Stay the fuck away from International (used to be E14). It's not a good place.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I am willing to risk my life for the Sinaloa trucks in that part of town. If that’s how I go, so be it.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Aite. Ill give you the food trucks. But I ain't even thinking about it at night.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I used to do a taco crawl on my birthday. We’d walk international at night and get a taco at like 6 places. Last time I did that was about 7 or 8 years ago. I might only do it in the day now.

Sinaloa has a place on Telegraph now, and that is a lot less sketchy. But it’s also not quite as good as the truck.

[-] Mellibird@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Omg it has images from 6 years ago and 7 months ago. The difference is absolutely mind blowing. But also in general, to see how it looks now its just so depressing. I've been reading a book right now that's based in the 1930s and this looks and feels like the Hoovertowns they describe.

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[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I honestly think that this kind of change is a big part of why my mom became radicalized into MAGA. The area she just moved away from was already bad when she moved there, but it went down hill in a similar way. Over the same time period, she began blaming liberal policies for the problems and became someone who says that Fox News is too liberal and sends me links to the Gateway Pundit as proof for things she believes.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I lived there from 2009 to 2016 and loved it. Was really cool, even though I lived in Ghost Town on San Pablo, no body ever fucked with me or my GF. I came back after 3 years abroad and was devastated to see how bad it became. Then I went back in the "post" pandemic and I could not believe my fucking eyes that it was even worse. Dramatically worse. Tbf so is San Jose and SF.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m hoping the Governor wins that court case and we can start to actually put people in our unused shelter beds.

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Holy shit that is awful, this country is a dumpster fire.

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Are police officers blaming all the defunding efforts that actually never happened yet?

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

I came in here to call bullshit. Then I saw it was in Oakland. Nvrmnd. Carry on.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Poor Oakland.

Gas station nearby is even worse:

In-N-Out on GMaps

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Sounds pretty par for the course for Oakland, tbh. The locals probably know better, but the airport ought to be notifying visitors that they can't be leaving valuables in their cars in that city. And that they're gonna want the insurance on their rentals.

[-] smolyeet@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

For real. I learned about this from a guy delivering my weed when we visited. That’s when I learned what biping was. Never would have known. “You dont want to rent a car in Oakland”

[-] thedrowedranger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What is biping for those of us not in the loop?

[-] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Bipping is the act of stealing from cars, often through the use of “splashing” (breaking the car windows).

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's an exit away from the airport. It's def scetch. I only worked down there when I could park my car or bike inside a gate.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 1 year ago

Can't have shit in Oakland...

[-] Nerrad@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Oakland should get a police department.

[-] jayrhacker@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Underrated comment.

[-] Hello_there@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 year ago

the area has high theft because there are a lot of restaurants in the area, and its outside of an airport, so a lot of tourists tend to leave their luggage in their rental vehicles, making them extremely prime targets for theft.

The Raising Canes in Oakland switched to drive thru only because of the rampant thefts of people flying in and trying Raising Canes first.

[-] atp2112@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

At the same time, I see why they'd doubt this, given it sounds similar to the rash of articles about stores closing in cities because of "out-of-control crime" before the midterms, only for the real reasons like corporate reorganization or unionbusting to trickle out later.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Why not hire a security guard? This sounds like some packaged bullshit trying to blame downsizing on crime, just like CVS did a couple years ago.

Yeah it is, just like all that shit about how retail stores last year having to close because of crime AS CRIME WAS FUCKING PLUMMETING

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[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I thought that the whole "bay area is getting worse" was a front propagated by big businesses trying to hide their corporate losses to shareholders. Weird huh

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

And in Canada, at least one Tim Horton's restaurant had to close dine-in because of violent drug addicts and homeless people making it unsafe for everyone. 😵

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Is this just another example of stuff that wouldn't even happen if cost of living was affordable to people not born wealthy?

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago
[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 5 points 1 year ago

noo I love burgers :(

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Land of the free cars.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

So you're telling me crime is up in this super economy? Nonsense...

[-] AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Overall crime is down nationally. Some specific categories are overall trending upward (car theft, not surprisingly) and crime is always fluctuating in local areas in either direction.

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