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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

President Biden announced Friday that his administration is forgiving $5 billion in student debt for another 74,000 borrowers, marking the latest round of debt cancellation since the Supreme Court voided the president's student loan forgiveness program.

Mr. Biden said that of the borrowers who can receive relief, nearly 44,000 are teachers, nurses, firefighters and others who are eligible for forgiveness after working 10 years of public service. Almost 30,000 of those who will have their debt wiped clean have been repaying their loans for at least 20 years, but did not get the relief they earned through income-based plans, the president said.

With the latest round of student loan forgiveness, more than 3.7 million Americans have had their debt erased under the Biden administration, Mr. Biden said.

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[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago

It's insane that they made 5b off of just 74k people in the first place

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

What's insane is this is barely a drop in the bucket...

There's over 1,770 billion in student loans debt.

When people say 1.77 trillion, it might not be immediate how little a few billion is to the larger issue.

But it's only around 0.2% of total debt. Probably less because the 1.77 trillion is rounded, and at this scale that's what 5 billion is. A rounding error they don't even include that digit when talking about the total amount.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Forgiving 5B in student debt VS inciting riot to overthrow our government...

bOtH sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE!!!

[-] adrian783@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

well one side didn't go to college so this is basically a nothing burger to them

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

BUT IF I DID AND I ALREADY HAD PAID IT ID BE JUST AS PISSED AS I AM NOW THAT I CANT DRAG ANYONE ELSE DOWN

DRAG??? WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF FREAK?!

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Right. It's like saying my dad died of cancer, so your dad should also die of cancer.

No, let's improve shit for everyone. Fuck that outdated mentality.

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[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My lender has been sitting on my application for PAYE since September. And I doubt it ever gets processed as it won't help their bottom line.

Biden should have left the debt pause indefinitely and fight judges who ruled against himself. The courts allow delays. This would gain him back a lot of support and it would cost him zero political capital.

[-] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Yep. He told Republicans he would stop pausing it to pass funding for the government.

He should have lied like they would.

[-] SnotFlickerman 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, yes?

It's time to fucking play hardball with these creeps instead of this milquetoast turn the other cheek bullshit.

They want to play the game like that, so they are setting the ground rules. Acting like we have to keep one hand tied behind our back during a fight with them is fucking stupid. Get that arm out and throw sand in their fucking eyes.

Pocket sand!

[-] SHADESLAYER_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Look out we got a tough guy

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[-] AaronMaria@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

For a second I thought this said Biden is forgiving $5 and assumed this is the onion.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I might be included in one of the recent rounds of forgiveness (the one where if you have under 12k in loans taken out and have kept up with payments for over 10 years). I've paid off all but about $250 of it, and even making the minimum payment, I'll have it paid off in around 4 months anyway. Unless they move at breakneck speeds by government standards, by the time they actually get everything processed, $5 sounds about right. Which hey, if that ends up being how it goes, I get a free ice cream cone on Uncle Joe. Can't complain about that.

[-] SpookyCoffee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Cool, but will that solve anything? Greedy universities still win in this scenario.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Greedy universities

Banks, thousands of other kinds of predatory businesses that prey on students: "Ha, yes, yes! 'Geeedy universities,' that's the ticket!"

[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's the universities that charge these astronomical prices for tuition, not the banks. So yes, greedy fucking universities.

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 year ago

It's a small measure but it's better than nothing. We need free public universities but that's outside of a presidents unilateral authority.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

"It's not perfect, so we should do nothing". FFS...

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[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Let's see if the US public can be bought off to overlook genocide that cheaply.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Only 1% of voters think Gaza is the most important issue in this election.

[-] Cowlitz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Even if more did, would it change anything? Most politicians seem to have the same shitty stance. At least most politicians that the average American will vote for. Biden stance sucks but its not something that differentiates him from most other politicians. I wouldn't expect it to play out much differently with someone else.

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[-] schwim@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

Averages out to be 67,567.56 per.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

fuck you biden for again putting a stipulation on your promises and only helping a select few

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1595/forgive-student-loan-debt-public-colleges-and-univ/

either forgive it all or just forget about it tired of my hopes going up every time a biden is living up to his campaign promises article comes

silent joe waited until election year to have anything to say

justice delayed is justice denied

[-] flamingarms@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You didn't read the article you're replying to, did you? Biden tried to forgive student debt for all Americans; SCOTUS shot it down. That was around the middle of last year, and Biden has been having to eke out student loan forgiveness in whatever ways he can since then. I don't know that Americans are gonna see student loan debt forgiveness or any other serious and free social support on the scale you want until there is a reckoning with the English Poor Law mentality.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That'll really cut down the 1.7 trillion dollar student loan problem.

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

So you'd rather he do nothing? I know it is a drop in the bucket but let's not let good be the enemy of perfect.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'd rather he do more, but my expectations aren't high considering Biden was critical in creating this problem:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-student-loans/

Either way, don't expect me to cheer on a jackass who barely makes a dent in a problem he created.

[-] keyez@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Should just let it trickle down from the billionaires like usual smh

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He want these younger votes so bad, lets see if this continues after he get elected second term.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He wants a second term, so he's... improving people's lives? Not sure what you're mad about. Trump wants a second term, so he's *talking up the culture-war nonsense, and saying he'll attack his political enemies...

[-] gogosempai@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Paying education loans even after 20 years of working in public service? Seems like a failure of the education system. I'm from Europe, also been to India a lot on business, and never have I seen anything of this magnitude. You can get a good education even in India for a very nominal tuition fee that middle-class parents are also able to cover without taking out loans. For poor families, it's virtually nothing in good state universities. The idea is that education will empower even the poor and they'll be able to get a good job and become tax paying citizens. Not like if you're poor, we're still gonna crush the heck out of you with more debt. The latter seems to be the strategy employed in the US. In most European countries, education is virtually free covered by taxes. Of course taxes are high but it benefits everyone in terms of healthcare and education. Is that really so bad? Isn't it the government's job to make sure EVERYONE has access to good healthcare and education? Then why does it feel that it is a money-oriented corporation running the country rather than a government?

Sorry, went on a rant there. Whenever I see something like this it just makes my blood boil. Teachers, firefighters, nurses still paying student loans after a decade or two, that's a failure of the education system right there.

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