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Biden fundraises off Trump’s Iowa win: ‘He’s the clear front runner’ (thehill.com)

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President Biden on Monday night issued a plea for supporters to donate to his campaign in the wake of former President Trump’s victory in Iowa.

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” Biden wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“But here’s the thing: this election was always going to be you and me vs. extreme MAGA Republicans. It was true yesterday and it’ll be true tomorrow,” Biden added, posting a link to a fundraising page.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 134 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Don't vote for a rapist" is a fine platform to run on at this point, where conservatives are ready to vote for a rapist.

Biden is getting way too much shit for explicitly saying that voting for him is better than voting for a rapist.

This is not his fault, go call your grandma names for voting into the two party system, this dichotomy had been perpetuated for decades.

Biden is the better presidential candidate, and by far the better president, running as a contrast to a rapist traitor is an understandable salient facet of his platform.

It isn't all of it, but if a large minority is ready to vote for a rapist, saying "I don't support rape, if you don't support rape vote Dem" is a good starting campaign point to let the majority know where you stand.

You aren't voting for two rapists.

You're voting for trump, a rapist, or Biden, a center politician who has made several responsible ethical and moral policy decisions in his first term that have benefited the majority of the country.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

"Insurrectionist" is too long a word for most Americans.

I think "don't vote for a rapist" works quite nicely.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago

That's so funny, I'm literally looking up other words for insurrectionist right now because I completely agree, haha.

Maybe traitor, but that's a little nationalist for me and the piece of crap doesn't believe in anything anyway.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Benedict Donald, it has that historical ring to it.

(Unfortunately history is illegal anywhere MAGA lives)

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I almost used that! But assumed the same stumbling block.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

if it wasn't for the whole, bypassing congress to sell weapons to a country actively engaged in genocide... i'd say biden is the clear winner...
...
but now they're going to beat that horse to death, and i can't personally justify it...
except that trump would've done worse...

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 56 points 8 months ago

The fact that Trump would have done worse is a pretty good counterpoint.

You have one candidate who says hey Israel you should start pulling back.

And then you have another candidate who admires dictators and their totalitarian policies, who's a rapist.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

i just don't think any trump supporters will believe that...
plus the whole joe smelling little girls hair thing, they all consider him a rapist, and trump was a witch hunt....
i've already seen "genocide joe" being thrown around...
i mean, how did we go from fighting a genocide in Ukraine, to supporting a genocide in Palestine?
i'm starting to think we're fucked now, and this is what fucked us.
trump is a billion times worse, but that's hard to argue when biden has already actually armed a genocidal regime in Israel...

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is a load of silly nonsense.

We didn't go from anything to anything.

The US supporting Israel in its invasion of Palestine has been happening for 70 years.

Yes, ignorant conservatives call people childish and inaccurate names, this should not be influential to your decision making.

Trump is a rapist, Biden is a centrist politician leaning left during his first term.

You can either vote for Trump, a rapist who does not care about hurting people, or for Biden, a center politician leaning left in his first term whose responsible and sometimes progressive presidential policies have inarguably benefited the United States and its citizens, and lent stability to the global neighborhood.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

That is a load of silly nonsense

you lost me right here.

the support of isreal hasn't been 100% consistent the last 70 years. and israel's genocidal actions haven't been static either.

there was a very significant development and increase in hostilities. Congress votes to not give them weapons, the white house, under biden, bypassed that and is selling them weapons.
at the exact same time, they just stopped giving weapons to ukraine.

you're silly to pretend like that's not significant.

i bet Trump calls biden "genocide joe" 1,000 times in the next year...

it's silly nonsense to pretend like a reasonable measured response is going to be relevant in the next election.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

trump called Biden sleepy joe more than a thousand times last election and still lost the presidency even before trump was found liable for rape, insurrection and fraud.

You're giving way too much power to bullies calling names.

trump calls people names because he doesn't know what he's talking about or understand any of the issues, so he uses silly names that attract lazy listeners who avoid critical thinking.

Just because you like alliteration doesn't mean you should vote for a rapist, or that the rapist knows what he's talking about.

And you are factually incorrect about Israel.

Yes, Israel's Palestine occupation and extrajudicial civilian execution policy has been consistent since the founding of Israel.

Hospitals and schools and civilian centers weren't just bombed last year, this is not a new development, Israel has been bombing hospitals and schools in Palestine for decades.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

"the other guy is worse" is not an argument to vote for somebody. it's an argument to not vote for the other guy.

there are lots of people who are not trump, and all this astroturfing from biden is really doing is making sure a shitty candidate (Biden) is running.

We can and should do better, and the DNC is going to be hard pressed to get a Biden victory where anyone more progressive than a stick in the mud is likely to win without even trying.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"The other guy is worse" is a valid reason, especially if the other guy is actually far worse, like here.

The better candidate is who you want to vote for.

Also, Biden is a good candidate. His administration rejoined climate agreements, had made actual investments in green technology, American manufacturing, paying off student debt, the usd is stronger than it's been in decades.

vs. a rapist who personally committed election fraud.

These are not similar candidates.

Trump is a rapist who personally committed election fraud, Biden is a career-middle executive-left president who has made real-life policy decisions that help people

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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 27 points 8 months ago

No amount of money is going to convince hardcore maga to vote for anyone else.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 7 points 8 months ago

Won't the money be spent trying to scare anyone who's anti trump into not staying at home come voting day?

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Yes. Politics nowadays is less about winning the argument and more about actually getting your supporters to show up.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

There still is a long way to go. Somewhere around mid April will start retail politics and the real election narrative will be set.

[-] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago

It's going to come down to Abortion, Education, and Store prices during the general election. Most Americans are not invested in Israel or Ukraine.

If prices come down before Nov, Biden should win based on how Virginia turned out during it's latest election. But it will be a close election.

[-] Elektrotechnik@feddit.de 20 points 8 months ago

I just checked out the comments on that twitter post. Yikes, that's quite the shit show :D

Fingers crossed for your election, guys!

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

[-] excitingburp@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Even if it is bots behave like it isn't. Go out and vote.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 points 8 months ago

Weird how Elon kept whining about bots being rampant until it came out that half of his followers were bots and Twitter started bleeding users and advertisers.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I love the title cutting off a very important part of the quote. You guys are just helping spread fear.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

Which part?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” that's the full quote. The quote fragment in the title makes it seems like Biden is admitting that Trump is ahead of him. Welcome to modern "journalism" and MicroWave is just a post farm so it doesn't care what "information" it spreads.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

You know... if he really cared about beating trump in november, he should step down and then campaign for his successor.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

He's said the only reason he's running is trump...

But also he said "50 other Dems" could beat trump.

So it seems like less that he's running to stop trump from winning, and more knowing trump is his easiest opponent.

If all he cares about was stopping trump, yeah, he wouldn't have ran in the 2020. Let alone 2024 when he's polling even worse.

Like Clinton before him, he's willing to risk trump because he thinks trump is one of the few candidates that would make someone vote D to prevent.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I hear that.

And what's hilarious is... most democrats are eating that shit up.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't say that.

Voting is easy and convenient for me. I'm voting D like I do every election. Just not happy I don't have a say in who that is for the next four years

The problem is people that don't always vote because they have to fight suppression.

"Vote me or things will be worse, I'll keep everything as bad as it is!"

Doesn't really get them out to the polls....

And that's not opinion, we know it often doesn't work. It's just also the only way conservative Dems can still win. So that's what we're going to keep seeing

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Voting is easy and convenient for me.

Sadly, thanks to Republicans, it isn't for a lot of people. By design, because those people are more likely to vote for Democrats.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Voting is easy and convenient for me. I’m voting D like I do every election. Just not happy I don’t have a say in who that is for the next four years

we haven't had a say in that since I've been voting... probably. Certainly since I've been paying attention to the primaries. ('16 is what really got me hyper focussed on them.)

“Vote me or things will be worse, I’ll keep everything as bad as it is!”

They've been saying that for as long as I've been voting, too. (actually both sides have been using lesser of two evils... which this is just an extension of.)

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

And, who, pray tell, is this mythical successor that would do better?

Give me a name, please. It's so easy to say "young Democrat that everyone likes" should run instead of Biden. But what actual person is that?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

I see your name far too often zaph, and the reason it's too often rather than nice to see is you lower the discouse of every thread you touch.

[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

You didn't answer their question.

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[-] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Would love to hear your answer to this as well. We all know you don't have one because you're clearly just virtue signaling.

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I'd vote for a monkey over either of these old shit heads.

Trump is a massive POS human.

Definitely tremendously worse than dumb, creepy Joe.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

"My name is not Trump. Please donate money to me." - Biden

biden thinks it is him and the citizens he kept down struggling versus trump who did the same

fucking laughable this guy thinks he can do a piss poor quartered assed at best job and thinks we should just blindly follow

[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Biden’s campaign slogan, forever and always: “Yeah, I might stab you in the stomach with a pitchfork, but at least I’m not Trump!”

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[-] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

We need a serious 3rd party candidate to step forward. I'm tired of have to choose the least bad candidate.

[-] consumptionone@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

We can't have a third party that is viable while we have first past the post voting. We need election reform to include new voting procedures like ranked choice voting or something similar along with the elimination of gerrymandering.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

This is America. A 3rd candidate would just be the lesser of 3 evils.

[-] mmagod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

a younger candidate puppet would have drawn in the millenials/genz vote this time around but boomers gonna boom..

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