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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

President Biden on Monday night issued a plea for supporters to donate to his campaign in the wake of former President Trump’s victory in Iowa.

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” Biden wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“But here’s the thing: this election was always going to be you and me vs. extreme MAGA Republicans. It was true yesterday and it’ll be true tomorrow,” Biden added, posting a link to a fundraising page.

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[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

if it wasn't for the whole, bypassing congress to sell weapons to a country actively engaged in genocide... i'd say biden is the clear winner...
...
but now they're going to beat that horse to death, and i can't personally justify it...
except that trump would've done worse...

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 56 points 10 months ago

The fact that Trump would have done worse is a pretty good counterpoint.

You have one candidate who says hey Israel you should start pulling back.

And then you have another candidate who admires dictators and their totalitarian policies, who's a rapist.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

i just don't think any trump supporters will believe that...
plus the whole joe smelling little girls hair thing, they all consider him a rapist, and trump was a witch hunt....
i've already seen "genocide joe" being thrown around...
i mean, how did we go from fighting a genocide in Ukraine, to supporting a genocide in Palestine?
i'm starting to think we're fucked now, and this is what fucked us.
trump is a billion times worse, but that's hard to argue when biden has already actually armed a genocidal regime in Israel...

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That is a load of silly nonsense.

We didn't go from anything to anything.

The US supporting Israel in its invasion of Palestine has been happening for 70 years.

Yes, ignorant conservatives call people childish and inaccurate names, this should not be influential to your decision making.

Trump is a rapist, Biden is a centrist politician leaning left during his first term.

You can either vote for Trump, a rapist who does not care about hurting people, or for Biden, a center politician leaning left in his first term whose responsible and sometimes progressive presidential policies have inarguably benefited the United States and its citizens, and lent stability to the global neighborhood.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

That is a load of silly nonsense

you lost me right here.

the support of isreal hasn't been 100% consistent the last 70 years. and israel's genocidal actions haven't been static either.

there was a very significant development and increase in hostilities. Congress votes to not give them weapons, the white house, under biden, bypassed that and is selling them weapons.
at the exact same time, they just stopped giving weapons to ukraine.

you're silly to pretend like that's not significant.

i bet Trump calls biden "genocide joe" 1,000 times in the next year...

it's silly nonsense to pretend like a reasonable measured response is going to be relevant in the next election.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

trump called Biden sleepy joe more than a thousand times last election and still lost the presidency even before trump was found liable for rape, insurrection and fraud.

You're giving way too much power to bullies calling names.

trump calls people names because he doesn't know what he's talking about or understand any of the issues, so he uses silly names that attract lazy listeners who avoid critical thinking.

Just because you like alliteration doesn't mean you should vote for a rapist, or that the rapist knows what he's talking about.

And you are factually incorrect about Israel.

Yes, Israel's Palestine occupation and extrajudicial civilian execution policy has been consistent since the founding of Israel.

Hospitals and schools and civilian centers weren't just bombed last year, this is not a new development, Israel has been bombing hospitals and schools in Palestine for decades.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, Israel's Palestine occupation and extrajudicial civilian execution policy has been consistent since the founding of Israel.

so either you're a complete idiot, or refusing to discuss within the constraints of reality....
either way, completely pointless to talk to.

p.s. have you ever heard the term ceasefire?
jesus fucking christ, no it has NOT been consistent and yes it has escalated QUITE A FUCKING LOT LATELY!!!

do you really not fucking get that?

it's not the only time, but lately it's been dramatically more violent than as of recently.

it's not about name calling, are you being deliberately obtuse?!!?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Given your constant errors and misjudgments about the history of Israel, Palestine, and US involvement therein, you should give up.

Or, suggestion: read.

I'm being deliberate.

The success of trump is about name-calling, you can't see that because name-calling deeply influences your perceptions, saddling you with a blind spot.

You do remember that you brought up how important his name calling is, I assume? If not, look up.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Yes! Good idea.

Go for it, I'll eagerly await your enlightened return.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

oh what a surprise, still pretending like im saying things im not... still completely out of touch with reality...

hey look, there's a brontosaurus outside your window! go pet it!

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

You said "touch grass".

Then you scurried through my comment history replying to all of my comments in other communities.

I agree that you should touch grass.

That's exactly what you said. You really are confused,, aren't you?

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

i checked your comments to see if you're constantly insulting and demeaning in every other comment... and you are, troll

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ask, and receive.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Lmao wow you are a severely misled individual. I hope we never meet lolol

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

you sound like a bot, with your absolutely generic insult

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago
[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Oh yes, anyone who doesn't agree with you is automatically a bot. The hallmark of someone without an actual argument.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Lmao wow you are a severely misled individual. I hope we never meet lolol

[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

We'll never meet here again, that's for sure! ;)

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

"The success of trump is about name-calling"
-you

you're not even self consistent, troll

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Yes. I say the same thing when I refute your incorrect points and maintain my correct points.

This is the definition of consistency.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

you directly contradicted yourself, and you're actually too stupid to understand that?
wow!

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, it is strange how you don't seem to understand direct logic. That must be very difficult for you.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

and then you have a lot of other potential DNC candidates who are like "Look, lets be on the right side of history, here"

Which is why one of the many reasons.... because AIPAC can't have that...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

and now bypassing congress to bomb Yemen/Houthi rebels....

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