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[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago

People seem to be freaking out about vegan thing.

I am pretty sure the artist is referring to the owner literally going out and buying either wet food with meat chunks or some other meal with meat directly in it, as opposed to dry food with no meat bits.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Kibble is still made with meat in it it's just been pressed and dehydrated.

It's a reference to some stupid ass vegans that think obligate carnivores can survive on a plant based diet.

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[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

No such thing as a vegan cat. No such thing as a vegan cat. No such thing as a vegan cat.

[-] Kiwi_Girl 13 points 2 years ago
[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Hey, vegan.com is as reliable a source as Trump.com. You're a fucking moron.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Can you try to be less toxic to others?

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I won't be forced to politely tolerate dumbasses.

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[-] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's a very balanced and well written article, thank you.

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[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The comic said the cat was fed meat though

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

No, robot, you’re loved. We scoop all the poops you make. We feed you all the food you need…

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

And you haven't chosen a name yet, but I'm happy to start calling you a nickname based off "tin" since you are made of metal.

  • Tin man
  • Rin-tin-tin
  • Tin-o-beans
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[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vegans that are Vegan for the animals probably wouldn't feed a cat other animals, it makes no sense. There is Vegan cat food that works just fine.

[-] Caesium@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago

cats are carnivores. no diet will ever change that. feed your cats meat.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

If you knew the history of cat food you would know that even meat made cats sick without added synthetic taurine.

They have since added taurine to all cat foods.

Vegan cat food is perfectly healthy for cats.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 years ago

Was curious so I looked it up.

Couldn't find anything backing up your claim that meat without synthetic taurine makes cats sick (which sounds like BS) and actually find some info that said that long-term affects of synthetic taurine is unknown in cats, and may not be as bioavailable for them as animal-based taurine.

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago
[-] null@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not seeing the word "synthetic" there chief. Wanna try again?

Also from your article: "Cat foods that contain high-quality animal-based protein will supply adequate levels of taurine for a normal, healthy cat.

Supplemental taurine may be added to certain cat foods, especially diets that are formulated for specific needs such as heart disease or growth and development"

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

There is literally no difference in chemical structure between synthetic and natural taurine.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 years ago
[-] Klear@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

You're arguing with a person who thinks the abstract google throws at you when looking for some information is to be trusted...

[-] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And even then the blurb didn't contradict what I said at all. They're clearly just desperate for a "gotcha".

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[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Food is just chemicals and it turns out it doesn't actually matter if the chemicals have a soul attached to them or not. Personally don't think vegans should own pets at all but the whole "they carnivores tho" is rly dumb

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Vegans wouldn't "Own" someone else. Plenty of vegans rescue other animals and take care of them as wards.

I personally don't use the word pet when referring to non-human animals in someone's care.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

There is not vegan cat food that works just fine, and you're a fucking asshole if you force an obligate carnivore to become a vegan because of your personal human beliefs.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm the asshole for not paying for animals to die?

Makes sense when you actually think about it for more than one second.

/S just incase.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

Don't adopt a carnivore if you're not willing to meet their biological needs. It's not a complex solution.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Except I would be meeting their biological needs. Y'all really don't like understanding science do you?

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Cats eat no plant matter naturally. Absolutely none. If you have studies somehow proving that they can live by eating only things that they naturally never eat, feel free to educate me. But as far as I'm aware, attempting to put cats on a vegan diet is animal abuse.

[-] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

I don't think they propose feeding your cats literally vegetables, but cat food made specifically for them, containing all the proteins and micronutrients they need, sourced from plant based materials.

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Yes, but I am questioning whether such a thing is being produced and actually equivalent. The thread further down cites for example synthetic taurine to be of inferior nutritional value to natural taurine.

This isn't something I know a lot about, and it's probably possible to produce vegan cat food with sufficient nutrition somehow, but there's still a burden of proof that such a thing is actually on the market and shown to not be worse for cats.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Stealing this link from another comment. Apparently it is possible to feed cats vegan food however it’s very involved, difficult and expensive for a multitude of reasons, not just the nutrients. I personally wouldn’t bother, even if I myself was vegan and I’d wager that most people who do try to make their cat a vegan don’t bother to do it the right and healthy way either…

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

From what the link says it doesn't seem that hard if your cat happens to like some brand of vegan cat food you can get, since those seem to be generally nutritionally ok (also going off the study the other comment replying to me linked). I would hope that most people that can't find a brand of vegan cat food their cat likes would just decide to not bother, or actually put in the full effort.

At that point the main scary thing is that if you only feed your cat one brand of food their entire life, they can sometimes get so used to it they refuse to eat anything else. But plenty of people run into that without going vegan, so eh. Overall it doesn't seem to be an issue provided you're not an idiot about it, which in this case I would actually guess most people aren't.

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[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 years ago

wouldn't feed a cat other animals, it makes no sense. There is Vegan cat food that works just fine.

No! Cats are obligate carnivores. A vegan diet would literally kill them painfully.

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Vegan cat food is not just vegetables for the uninformed. It is made to have all the necessary components that a car needs in its diet, mostly it is just missing the death of an animal part.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago
[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah? By taking care of my cat and supplying him with food that his body needs I'm an abuser? Because I buy meat based food from a company that buys their meat from a processor that buys their meat from a slaughterhouse that may abuse their animals? I don't think that's ironic, I think that's a stretch.

Some vegans are such clueless pricks.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

All meat eaters are purposefully keeping themselves clueless.

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[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

"Slaughterhouse that may abuse their animals" Slaughterhouse... Slaughter.... House...

And I'm the clueless one...

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[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Vegans for the animals that own an animal and deny it the choice of food are hypocritical.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Sentient beings aren't food!

[-] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Well. My cat gets regular cat food, but I do kinda deny him "the choice of food". (He's prone to get diarrhea and gets a specialty food for sensitive stomachs.)

I fail to see how choosing for your cat somehow would he wrong, since literally every cat owner does it. We don't sent them shopping and accept whatever they bring home.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Carnivore means that nutrients typical found in meat are required for a nutrient-complete diet. Carnivore doesn't mean that meat itself is needed. Vegan cat food exists and has artificial taurin added for example. The kneejerk reaction of CaTs NeEd MeAT ThO is so frustrating. Educate yourself and stop be hypocrits.

Edit: Should have guessed you just want to parrot your existing believes lol but sure keep downvoting

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

There's a lot more to a balanced cat diet than just the nutrients. Even feeding a cat cooked rather than raw meat will lead to malformities and deficiencies in the long run. Forcing a cat on a vegan diet is an experiment with their health and well-being, which will most likely cause it to suffer unnecessarily.

If you really are that militant about not serving meat, just don't have a pet that is an obligate carnivore. There are plenty of herbivore animals to have as pets.

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[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Hey, thanks for getting all the cat abusers to out themselves so I could block them all... 👍

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