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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

And when they perform raids, they should be required to shout "This is a F.A.C.T. jack"! Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 58 points 8 months ago

Counterpoint: Neither of those organizations should exist at all.

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Yea, they take up too much funding that could be used for other orgs!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 29 points 8 months ago

....wait a minute

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 13 points 8 months ago

hah, I read that as "other drugs" and was confused to your point.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cops are always power tripping. Would be good to have less law junkies.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Yea, useful ones like medicare and social services, right?! ... right..?

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Woah there buddy, if you want housing, food and healthcare, go get incarcerated like everyone else.

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[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I don't think CIA_chatbot agrees with you

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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 8 months ago

I knew a guy a long time ago who said "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store."

Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure thing that "legalized everywhere" you talk about:

[-] explodicle@local106.com 15 points 8 months ago

C'mon Europe you're supposed to be cool

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

For real, I thought the French loved smoking

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[-] franklin@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They mentioned the ATF. It was explicitly US centric and while a bit hyperbolic it is becoming more common there.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You mean ATF as in the automatic transmission fluid? No it was not explicitly US centric. You thinking a three letter acronym has to be about the US is just further evidence of the same assumption being the basis for all your thoughts.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

That's a you problem. You need to learn to Google stuff in context. "ATF" alone might not tell you what it is, but you had "cannabis" and "dea" as 2 other keywords you could've used. That's like putting "right" in Google translate and complaining that it sucks because it gave you the word for "just" instead of the opposite of "left"

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As if I did not use a search engine to find the result about automatic transmission fluid just to make a point. Funny you try to belittle me for not being able to understand what the post wrote when what actually happened here was that my point went straight over your head. To put it in plain words for you: I understand the post is about the US. OP talks like the US is everything, like many people from the US do, and the stupidity of it is tiring.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I got your point. You pretended to be dumb to make it, good job. And now you're pretending to be a victim because I pointed out that using Google wrong is not op's fault. Me explaining how to Google is not "belittling". Didn't call you any names or anything.

Back on point: I actually agree with the base idea that many people from the US talk as if they're the center of the universe and everyone should know what they're talking about, but c'mon... Let's not pretend that we're not watching films and series made there and we don't know what ATF and DEA are. Make these points when they're valid, not every time an American speaks.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

I personally had no idea what they meant when I entered this thread, it's not pretending, there's a lot of projection going on here

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I had heard of the DEA, but not the ATF, to be honest. The problem is that three letter acronyms are hardly unique unless context such as domestic to the US is being provided.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I am not hating on Americans here. You did say I could not Google though, which is just plain wrong.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Idk if you can Google but you sure as fuck can't shut up

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[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Map no longer accurate, Minnesota legalized recreational this part year 😁

Also here in belgium, it is only decriminalized up to 3g.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Brazillian medical exception needs a big asterisk. You can get medical permits but you cannot grow and they are not legal distribution neither. You basically have to start growing illegally, then going to the police department close to you with a lawyer signed document saying that you are growing against the law to be able to fulfill the legally medical judge permit. If you're in condition to do that, that mean you have enough money that police are not going to bother you anyways because they only harass poor and black people.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Yea, I have not done any quality control on the image. However the point was just to point out that weed is not legal almost everywhere, contrary to the post title. There are probably lots of inaccuracies, though the main point still stands.

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[-] Fallenwout@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you're the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

They make a North American event and call it the World Series. Hence North America is the whole world. QED.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 8 months ago

Its still illegal at a federal level and I don't see that changing any time soon. You can't smoke your pot and work for the government.

[-] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

While it doesn't work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 9 points 8 months ago

Combine Weed and Tobacco into "Smoking" and make it SAFE

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Where is the C coming from? Firearms, Alcohol, C, Explosives, Tobacco?

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[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.

Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 8 months ago

And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn't hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.

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[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Fun fact, while working "the season" in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

I don't even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.

[-] Decoy2point0@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Dip, beer and guns go together like "peas and carrots"

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[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Speaking of HHS (from NYT):

Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.

The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.

But sadly

Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.

“D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.

I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it's the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys' pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they've been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.

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[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Everywhere? DEA? ATF? I really didn't miss reddit's US defaultism

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