Counterpoint: Neither of those organizations should exist at all.
Yea, they take up too much funding that could be used for other orgs!
....wait a minute
hah, I read that as "other drugs" and was confused to your point.
Cops are always power tripping. Would be good to have less law junkies.
Yea, useful ones like medicare and social services, right?! ... right..?
Woah there buddy, if you want housing, food and healthcare, go get incarcerated like everyone else.
I don't think CIA_chatbot agrees with you
I knew a guy a long time ago who said "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store."
Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.
Sure thing that "legalized everywhere" you talk about:
C'mon Europe you're supposed to be cool
They mentioned the ATF. It was explicitly US centric and while a bit hyperbolic it is becoming more common there.
You mean ATF as in the automatic transmission fluid? No it was not explicitly US centric. You thinking a three letter acronym has to be about the US is just further evidence of the same assumption being the basis for all your thoughts.
That's a you problem. You need to learn to Google stuff in context. "ATF" alone might not tell you what it is, but you had "cannabis" and "dea" as 2 other keywords you could've used. That's like putting "right" in Google translate and complaining that it sucks because it gave you the word for "just" instead of the opposite of "left"
As if I did not use a search engine to find the result about automatic transmission fluid just to make a point. Funny you try to belittle me for not being able to understand what the post wrote when what actually happened here was that my point went straight over your head. To put it in plain words for you: I understand the post is about the US. OP talks like the US is everything, like many people from the US do, and the stupidity of it is tiring.
I got your point. You pretended to be dumb to make it, good job. And now you're pretending to be a victim because I pointed out that using Google wrong is not op's fault. Me explaining how to Google is not "belittling". Didn't call you any names or anything.
Back on point: I actually agree with the base idea that many people from the US talk as if they're the center of the universe and everyone should know what they're talking about, but c'mon... Let's not pretend that we're not watching films and series made there and we don't know what ATF and DEA are. Make these points when they're valid, not every time an American speaks.
I personally had no idea what they meant when I entered this thread, it's not pretending, there's a lot of projection going on here
I had heard of the DEA, but not the ATF, to be honest. The problem is that three letter acronyms are hardly unique unless context such as domestic to the US is being provided.
I am not hating on Americans here. You did say I could not Google though, which is just plain wrong.
Map no longer accurate, Minnesota legalized recreational this part year 😁
Also here in belgium, it is only decriminalized up to 3g.
Brazillian medical exception needs a big asterisk. You can get medical permits but you cannot grow and they are not legal distribution neither. You basically have to start growing illegally, then going to the police department close to you with a lawyer signed document saying that you are growing against the law to be able to fulfill the legally medical judge permit. If you're in condition to do that, that mean you have enough money that police are not going to bother you anyways because they only harass poor and black people.
Yea, I have not done any quality control on the image. However the point was just to point out that weed is not legal almost everywhere, contrary to the post title. There are probably lots of inaccuracies, though the main point still stands.
America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you're the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .
They make a North American event and call it the World Series. Hence North America is the whole world. QED.
Its still illegal at a federal level and I don't see that changing any time soon. You can't smoke your pot and work for the government.
While it doesn't work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.
Combine Weed and Tobacco into "Smoking" and make it SAFE
Where is the C coming from? Firearms, Alcohol, C, Explosives, Tobacco?
Cannabis.
Gotcha, thanks
Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.
Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.
And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn't hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.
Fun fact, while working "the season" in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.
I don't even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.
Dip, beer and guns go together like "peas and carrots"
Either hhs or fda.
Speaking of HHS (from NYT):
Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.
The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.
But sadly
Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.
“D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.
I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it's the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys' pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they've been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.
Everywhere? DEA? ATF? I really didn't miss reddit's US defaultism
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