To become an American police officer.
Other countries have somewhat higher requirements
Norway - 4500 hours
Finland - 4500 hours
India - 4000 hours
Germany - 4000 hours
Australia - 3500 hours
Spain - 2880 hours
United Kingdom - 2250 hours (plus if they want to carry a gun significant additional hours)
Canada - 2080 hours
New Zealand - 1924 hours
Australian here. Our police are still shit after 3500hrs just FYI.
Have they shot anyone randomly lately?
No, they dont seem to even show up to crimes that are actively being committed.
Have you tried being filthy rich?
i've played over 12,000 hours of Fallout 4.
I'll take my PhD now, thx
Fallout 4 was released 2,985 days ago.
12,000/2,985 = an average of 4 hours a day, every day, no days off.
Probably the best value purchase you'll make in your life.
Probably the best value purchase you’ll make in your life.
that’s why, after around 10k hours, I finally paid for it, lol.
Lol jesus
also, it was on sale. GOTY Edition + all DLCs for, like, $15. why not?
I got more out of that game than anything else I ever pirated (except, maybe, my copies of TNG, DS9, VOY, and all 20 seasons of Law & Order), so I thought: why not pay for it? it was totally worth it!
Dawg how old are you that you've consumed that much content in your life lmao
I’m 44. also, I spent most of my life freelancing/working from home, and, through covid and for a long time afterwards, unemployed— so lots of free time.
also, I haven’t played it in about a year, although a new Mod, Fallout: London just came out, so I may just kiss a few hundred hours goodbye on that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also, I haven’t played it in about a year
12000/(2985-365) = 4.58 hours per day!
That's what I did with Far Cry 3, but couldn't get the stupid launcher to work on linux, so ended up pirating it again.Great work Ubisoft!
~~EA~~ Bethesda only counts microtransactions when advancing your degree
It's also not just the amount of training they receive, but the content of the training. When you learn in Police academy that 1) everyone is armed and dangerous and 2) everyone is out to kill you, you tend to be more aggressive. And this is drilled into their skulls with the equivalent of a jackhammer. No wonder you get cops that are completely devoid of empathy, reason and humanity, but rather trigger happy assholes who will use violence for every single issue.
Compare that to the federal standard 3-5 years of University-like education with loads of theory and practice parts they need in my country to be a basic police(wo)man. Topics like deescalation techniques, basic communication in several languages, and psychological training are integral parts of the curriculum. And much more important than knowing how to shoot or beat up someone.
Police in Norway have to have a bachelor's degree in policing.
https://www.politihogskolen.no/en/about-us/our-campuses/bodo/ for anyone who wants to become a police officer in Norway.
While I agree that police need more training and psychological evaluations... How much of this is because job training schools lobbied for needless licenses and things to be covered under those licenses? Does someone really need 1600 hours of training to cut hair?
It differs state to state but being a barber and cutting hair are not the same thing. A barber's license is one of a few different ones used to get a job cutting hair. The thing that barbers generally do that others don't is provide a shave. Use of a straight razor along with health and safety is part of the training.
For context a full time bachelors student is pulling about 600 hours in one 15 week semester.
Not only that, cops fought for... and WON... the right to not hire people who are too smart:
the time i wasted playing TF2 alone could have made me a cop in 5 states.
If you had STUDIED instead you would now legally be able to beat your wife kill minorities and watch kids die because it's too scawy!
Can I just say that this is the most interesting table layout I’ve seen? The column headers (state names) are the center column?!
What is an electric sign specialist?
It seems to be as straightforward as it sounds. It's a narrowly focused electrician license for working on signs that use electricity.
The Sign Specialist Contractor License allows you to do the following work:
• Installation of all types of electric signs
• Repair and maintenance
https://www.contractorcampus.com/michigan-sign-specialist-contractor-license.html
It makes sense to have a separate license since those signs ran on stupid high voltage. I had a friend nearly stop his heart messing around with a neon sign transformer (he knew how dangerous it was, he just didn't care)
I can't really comment on how much is a sufficient amount of training for law enforcement, cuz fuck if I know. There's certainly no shortage of problems from cops, but is the root of that problem their training? I suspect it has more to do with the quality of applicant / screening in the hiring process. There are a handful of kinds of people who'd be interested in a career in law enforcement, and most of those are the kind of person who shouldn't be trusted with ANY authority.
You can't train someone out of being a shitty person.
Tbh the column on the left is the one that elicits more of a 'seriously?' from me. Why in the everliving FUCK would I need more than a couple youtube videos worth of insight + a cert showing you understand how and why to clean sharp shit between clients to give hair cutting or nail painting a shot? Result might not be pretty right out the gate; but legally speaking, who cares? Price it low until your skills increase.
You might not be able to train the shitty out of a turd, but you can raise the cost of entry and weed out some dingleberries. If the required effort is higher and the time commitment greater, it might deter some folks.
And that's the exact reason why barbers and cosmetologists require that much training. Because it works.
You can't train the shitty out of someone? You can have them supervised for a lot longer and if they have the pattern they fail. That is the exact purpose of pointing out the difference.
Wtf? Why does an interior designer need training?
Isn’t it just like picking colors and furniture?
Usually, but in Florida you have to follow very specific rules so no one realizes you’re gay.
Place the colours of the rainbow on too many walls? Believe it or not, straight to jail
Actually you might be surprised how much building code interior designers have to know.
For example, in California permanently installed kitchen islands are required to have electrical outlets on either side. You gotta know that to design the kitchen in a way that won't get your clients in trouble.
Maybe this is a case of interior designer and interior decorators being different things
I never realized Louisiana looks like an obese arm smoking a cigarette
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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