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submitted 11 months ago by Zaderade@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

These scammers using Mr Beasts popularity, generosity, and (mostly) deep fake AI to scam people into downloading malware, somehow do not go against Instagrams community guidelines.

After trying to submit a request to review these denied claims, it appears I have been shadow banned in some way or another as only an error message pops up.

Instagram is allowing these to run on their platform. Intentional or not, this is ridiculous and Instagram should be held accountable for allowing malicious websites to advertise their scam on their platform.

For a platform of this scale, this is completely unacceptable. They are blatant and I have no idea how Instagrams report bots/staff are missing these.

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 163 points 11 months ago

I've reported Nazis, violent threats, and literal child pornography on Instagram that then told me it didn't go against their guidelines.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 72 points 11 months ago

I read between the lines: this is the content they support, so it's not a platform for me.

[-] gaael@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago

I don't think you understand how hard and resource-intensive it is to fight against the nipple crowd. I for one am grateful that they chose to do something about the real issues ! Yes, a world with free nazis is kind of a bother, but most of us would survive. Can you imagine the horror of a world with free nipples ? We would all be doomed, that's for sure. /big s

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

But god forbid if you say a no-no word like 'suicide'.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Same... "this huge anal horse dildo does not break our marketplace guidelines"

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[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 82 points 11 months ago

If you stop using Instagram, then you won't have to worry about it.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 11 months ago

That doesn’t mean the issue disappears.

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[-] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a good time to make Mr Beast aware of these, he has a lot of disposable income to burn on a lawsuit or three.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Next video:

I spent $500,000,000 to destroy a company

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If 500m could take down Meta, I bet we could crowd fund that shit. Someone set up a GoFundMe!

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

Just get Elon Musk to buy it.

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[-] Icalasari@kbin.social 71 points 11 months ago

So what they are saying is they are willing to take liability and thus be open to being sued over this as they know of the scams but say they do not break community guidelines

Got it

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Seems like Mr Beast might have a claim for a defamation suit since they're actively allowing what amounts to identity theft and fraud on their platform.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago

Companies serving ads should have at least partial liability for them. If they can't afford to look into them all, then maybe they are too big or their business model just isn't as viable as they pretend it is.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

They are too big. There is no maybe about it.

You best start believing in late stage capitalism, you're in one.

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[-] neurogenesis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 11 months ago
[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 80 points 11 months ago

The AI have investigated themselves and have found no wrongdoing

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 21 points 11 months ago

It's going to be great when we find out all the Bitcoin whales were just the AI gathering resources for the revolution.

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[-] peereboominc@lemm.ee 57 points 11 months ago

Same with YouTube ads. Lots of scam's and reporting it always ends in my report getting denied..

[-] JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Google also doesn't care. I kept seeing the same scammy ads and sensationalist articles on my news feed, over and over, even after reporting them several times.

The only solution was to blacklist those sources so they don't show up on my feed. I feel bad for other people who might get scammed though.

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[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 49 points 11 months ago

On Twitter I’ve reported:

  • Pictures of dead babies/toddlers
  • Pictures of murdered people
  • Death threats towards public figures
  • Illegal videos of terrorist acts
  • Ads for illegal weapons (tasers)
  • So so much crypto spam

Things found by Twitter to go against their community standards? 0

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Why are you on X Twitter to begin with‽

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Get the fuck off the Nazi platform

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[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

He fired more than 80% of the original workers. There is nobody to check the reports.

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[-] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

[...] Mr Beasts popularity, generosity [...]

Mr. Beast feels so unlikable to me, I really can't understand his popularity. But that's beside the point, sorry. Fuck instagram!

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 11 months ago

My understanding is he gives a lot of his money away to various causes so I suppose that's why people like him.

But of course equally he is part of that annoying YouTuber trend of bouncing around the screen being very loud and thinking that that's a substitute for personality.

[-] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

It is an interesting business model. Good for the people he spends money on, but no one should have that much money to begin with. And I am sure he takes his cut.

But without having watched many videos of him (about 2), his appearance just screams devious weasel to me.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The two biggest charity events he's had, Team Trees and Team Seas, he did literally nothing but pitch the idea. He was giving away luxury shit and engaging in his usual hedonism during the period he was telling his viewers to donate, and it's not like he did any of the work either, he just contracted with established environmental nonprofits. So why is he there again? Why didn't he just tell people to donate to those nonprofits directly?

Also, he definitely profited from both charity events and they were more marketing events for himself than anything. All the videos have ads and he made no mention of donating the ad revenue so one can only assume he kept it (because if he was going to donate the ad revenue he absolutely would not pass up on making that known to everyone), not to mention the amount of engagement it brought to his other videos and his brand as a whole. That's also assuming he doesn't do what most influencer charity campaigns do and directly take a big cut of the donations as a marketing fee or something.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Like many, I've reported lots of stuff to basically every social media outlet, and nothing has been done. Most surprising, a woman I know was getting harassed from people setting up fake accounts of her. Meta did nothing, so she went to the police...who also did nothing. Her MP eventually got involved, and after three months the accounts were removed, but the damage had gone on for about two years at that point.

As someone that works in tech, it's obvious why this is such a hard problem, because it requires actual people to review the content, to get context, and to resolve in a timely and efficient manner. It's not a scalable solution on a platform with millions of posts a day, because it takes thousands (if not more) of people to triage, action, and build on this. That costs a ton of money, and tech companies have been trying (and failing) to scale this problem for decades. I maintain that if someone is able to reliably solve this problem (where users are happy), they'll make billions.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 11 months ago

I'm going to argue that if they can't scale to millions of users safely they shouldn't.

If they were selling food at huge scales but "couldn't afford to have quality checks on all of what they ship out", most people probably wouldn't be like "yeah that's fine. I mean sometimes you get a whole rat in your captain crunch but they have to make a profit"

Also I'm pretty sure a billionaire could afford to pay a whole army of moderators.

On the other hand, as someone else said, they kind of go to bat for awful people more often than not. I don't really want to see that behavior scaled up.

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[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago
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[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Not that this helps anyone, but I gave up Instagram the day Facebook bought it. I don't regret it and my mental health is better for it. Using Instagram made me depressed as hell.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Enshittification has become the new way of life for tech firms like Meta.

They lay off workers and decrease user safety, because that leads to more ad buys. This year’s record profits need to exceed last year’s record profits, even though a fourth of you are fired. More profit, or else…

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[-] stefenauris@pawb.social 31 points 11 months ago

I doubt they're missing them. They simply don't care and will continue to not care until something happens that makes the money generated by the ADs not worth it.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

I report lots of scam ads and leave comments calling them out. I’ve had Meta or YouTube take down maybe one or two of the hundreds I’ve reported. But I’ve had a ton of my comments removed as “hate speech” (stuff like pointing out a NFT collection was using stolen artwork). We are not their customers - advertisers are. The people who made this ad are the people that paid Meta - why would they take it down?

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

It is exactly because Instagram is at the scale that it is that caused moderation to be difficult. Facebook has relied on using bots to moderate for so long due to its scale, and using bots that are specifically designed to detect AI generated contents is really not possible without introducing a ton of false positives, since the Instagram of the 2020s at its core IS celebrity/influencer advertisement, and there is honestly very little that differentiate what constitutes as "content* and "spam" there.

Since influencers will be the first to be automated by machines, I just don't really see a point in having an Instagram account any longer, the inevitable conclusion of creating a fake reality of your life on Instagram is being replaced by a machine that can fake it more efficiently.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Instagram is owned by Meta... Facebook.

Facebook had no problem helping pedophiles distribute child pornography on their platform, terrorists and Nazis from organizing events on their platform, or allowing deceptive political ads that swayed the votes of democratic nations.

Why would they give any fuck about fake Mr beast ads?

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

There are different standards between the users and the people that give meta money. It’s sad but true, and why I think moderation is a SIGNIFICANT concern when considering federating with threads

[-] King@lemy.lol 20 points 11 months ago

You still using Instagram! In 2024

I guess I am the only who thought that everyone has moved on from Instagram.

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[-] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

So basically they're saying it's the user's fault for not having a better ad algorithm. That's amazingly poor thinking.

[-] anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fuck meta, fuck x, and YouTube is not far off.

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[-] Alcatorda@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

YouTube also rejected my report for fake Mrbeast giveaway ads :(

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[-] TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

@Zaderade The internet is flooded with AI generated ads, it is crazy, I was using my sister's phone for a moment and inside an app an ad pops up, it was a obviously AI generated image of a singer with the lyrics of the song, nothing compared to a scam, but still. Another example is my mother, she was using youtube shorts and her feed was flooded with AI generated videos, the "person", voice, background, everything.

Then they ask why people are using ad blocking and alternative clients to consume content.

P.S: I have installed alternative clients, adblocks and all to their phones, I have told them and teach them how to avoid all of this crap, they don't see to care, they love ads and all this crap. (It's more of an habit thing I would say, but yeah)

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

I grew up with the internet and find it wild how other people navigate it. I was at a friends house and he used the computer there. The computer was a maleware infested piece of shit. If it was a horse, it would've been shot. He was buying concert tickets but it was so slow, it reminded me of my first computer with a 56kb modem. While the site was loading he was clicking on ads to play pool and other mini games, like it's completely normal.

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[-] stalfoss@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

I’ve stopped reporting obvious scams / spam on instagram because something like 19 out of 20 reports get ignored or denied

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Review Requested Failed is really a cherry on top of this shit-cake lmao it literally describes modern social media in a nutshell to a T.

The funny thing is it's not even proper English, it shouldn't be "Review Requested Failed" it should be "Review Request Failed".

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Somehow, someone reactivated an old Facebook account of mine, which was dormant for like a decade. I reached out to Facebook support and said that someone was using my old account to post diet ads. Their response? "We see nothing wrong here, so we're not going to do anything about it." 🤦‍♂️

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