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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

President Biden on Thursday responded to former President Trump’s Christmas post with a religious message to love your enemies.

Trump’s unusual Christmas message, which he shared on Truth Social, called for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the nation to “rot in Hell.”

Biden shared an article from The Hill about Trump’s post on X, formerly known as Twitter, and added a message to poke at the former president.

“There’s an expression they say in church sometimes: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you,” the president said.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 197 points 10 months ago

This is the sort of thing that will be totally lost on the "good Christians" who are voting Trump.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

Right. The problem with 'killing with kindness' is that it doesn't work if the people who support your opposition aren't interested in kindness.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I don't mind him pushing for diplomatic civility, it's part of his job. But yes, we are slowly sliding towards domestic military conflict, while Xi Jinping laughs all the way to the bank.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago
[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You know, I think he likes the Winnie the Pooh references. He's not a typical authoritarian, Chinese culture is very idiosyncratic, very different from the west. They don't mind contradicting things being true simultaneously, often doing two things at once.

He likes being underestimated while he talks about wanting respect, though. It's an asset. He can't just let people disrespect him of course, but of all the things he could be compared to...

He's a sophisticated, complex man imo. Not some simpleton like our authoritarians. He thinks, deeply.

[-] occhionaut@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Nah, you post anything on Chinese social media with Winnie the Pooh visible its gonna get taken down immediately IF YOURE LUCKY.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Of course. He can't allow anyone to call him anything that might be dishonorable. That doesn't mean he isn't okay with it though. People can fight against things they like, if it suits their other purposes.

[-] crsu@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Evangelicals want totalitarianism since condemning others to hell isn't the marketing pitch they once believed it be

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Dude, this is lost on everyone.

People don't show anyone any respect at all any more. Common courtesy is just gone. 'Doing the right thing' is lost because it's assumed you're not getting something in return or your efforts are for naught. Everyone is self-absorbed and self-righteous. People preach about "empathy" but only practice it for those they feel sorry for.

I'm not a religious person but treating people like I want to be treated is something I try to do every day. Treating people with kindness, putting out positive energy into the world, makes you a better person. I can't comprehend the hate that so many people walk around with.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 10 months ago

Fascists weren't beat with brotherly love the first time, and it won't be how they're beaten this time either.

[-] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That isn't the kindness for the facists, it's for those the facists hurt. The kindness offered to facists is correction. Not all correction is gentle.

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

It will be worse than lost on them, they'll figure out a way to use it against him. Maybe it shows weakness or something. I'm sure they'll figure out a way to turn it around. There are Subreddit full of people working on it.

[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago

There's plenty of sentiment in the bible to the contrary, which is the useful thing about it. It's so full of gubbins that you can throw it back in its own face no matter what.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

The problem is that they even think Jesus is a liberal cuck now.

It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — "turn the other cheek" — [and] to have someone come up after to say, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?" And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak." And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 8 points 10 months ago

My grandmother, a devout roman catholic, said the Pope should mind his own business when he condemned Trumps border genocide. It's wild.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 10 months ago

"even if they smell" would have been a great addition

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

What makes me laugh is the Trump team going on full defense. Like even former GOP allies say he reeks.

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-kinzinger-says-donald-trump-smells-1856378

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 95 points 10 months ago

You mean the stuff that Jesus said, that Trump and his fans mock and shit on?

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 39 points 10 months ago

If they could read the Bible, they'd be upset.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If they could read ~~the Bible,~~ they'd be upset

[-] Spur4383@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I know that meme!

[-] ExFed@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If they could read the Bible, they'd be upset.

Yup. They would be.

[-] pinkwerdo@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago
[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Looks like light brandon to me.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

"God forgives, I don't"

Or alternatively,

"We can't let God do all the work"

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I disagree with joe on this one. You don’t have to waste rent in your brain hating someone, but you don’t have to love them either.

You can let the legal system put them in jail and forget about them.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

He's not going to actually love Trump, he's just saying that to get under Trump's skin.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Trump’s unusual Christmas message, which he shared on Truth Social, called for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the nation to “rot in Hell.”

Biden shared an article from The Hill about Trump’s post on X, formerly known as Twitter, and added a message to poke at the former president.

“There’s an expression they say in church sometimes: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you,” the president said.

Biden, who is Catholic and attends church regularly, is likely to face Trump in a presidential rematch next year.

The president has stepped up his criticism of Trump and often bashes his political rival at fundraisers, bringing up comments Trump makes and painting him as a threat to democracy.

Trump is holding onto his lead in the GOP presidential primary, polling with a 52.4-point lead in the aggregation of polls kept by Decision Desk HQ and The Hill.


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[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

North Americans on the website will try to convince me that Trump is the “bad guy” but somehow a president that supports a genocide (coined Genocide Joe) is the good guy in this equation.

North Americans will then convince me that choosing from only two parties for decades is somehow democracy.

Edit: This became like Reddit where saying “why the USA, a democracy, only have two parties in charge” is supporting Donald. I’m from Europe.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

No one’s buying your shit.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

The stupidest part of this argument is you're implying Trump wouldn't support Israel the same if not stronger.

It's a braindead implication, but here you are anyway. Simping for trump.

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

You realize Trump is much worse when it comes to supporting genocide, right? So yeah, the guy who supports genocide less is the good guy in this equation. Duh.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Doesn't even have to be a good guy to get my vote when the alternative is MAGA.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, vote Republican instead, the party of peace.....

😂 How braindead do you have to be?

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Ight then! So where are you from, tex? Tell us about the elevated levels of freedom and democracy you enjoy! Tell us about the ~~dictators~~ leaders you enjoy most! You definitely seem to break the mold of the stuffy, low/no-information conservative. What's your secret?

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You do realize North America isn't just the northern states right? Texas is north America. Canada is north America. This guy is on a whole different continent, probably nowhere near Texas.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Egon wasn't from Texas either.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

somehow a president that supports a genocide (coined Genocide Joe) is the good guy in this equation.

They both do. In fact, Trump much moreso.

Biden is (rightly) getting tons of shit for it because he's supposed to represent everyone to the left of American fascism, which doesn't include supporting genocide and otherwise propping up Israeli fascism.

Neither of them is the good guy. There's awful guy and many times worse guy.

North Americans will then convince me that choosing from only two parties for decades is somehow democracy.

Most Americans agree with you (and me) that it's undemocratic and should change. The people with the power overwhelmingly don't, though, since they're on average much richer, older and more authoritarian than the population in general.

Also, they don't want to jeopardize their legal bribes.

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't know if you have Putin's dick in your mouth or Jinpig's, but here's some tough love for you: fuck off, trollski.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Trump doesn't just want genocide in Israel. He wants it in the US too.

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago

Why would anyone try and convince you of anything? French citizens don’t get a vote in US elections. Your opinions on them don’t matter much.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

News flash, most North American don’t give a shit about your opinion to want to change it, nor do they even have any wish to know where you are from.

Go fuck off to whatever shit tier part of the planet you are from.

[-] cranakis@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

It warms my heart that so many have told you too fuck off already. Get fucked.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

just speaking on the last decade and a half

obama, trump, and biden all three had their names on a policies and laws that obama help craft and trump expanded on as did biden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Smoking_Prevention_and_Tobacco_Control_Act

obama as a presidential candidate ordered the green party strapped to a chair for eight hours just because the candidate wanted the same privileges as the democrats and republicans such as the debate stage

https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

but only trump is fascist

this comment is just friendly comradery to put on a show for the masses

both parties are wolves in sheep's clothing

not to mention making voting a state by state and not a federal issue just like the abortion and cannabis laws means who you get to vote on is state by state

so only biden is going to being on the ballot or just trump depending on your demographic luck but this is democracy?

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about.gif.jpg

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