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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 187 points 1 year ago

Hate to be that guy, but for something bad like this to happen, it's never one person's fault. Like the engineer who nuked the gitlab backup by mistake while production had been deleted. He didn't lose his job and rightfully so, there were a thousand other issues that led to that.

[-] BigT54@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Recently, YouTube started adding a tracking parameter to their share URLs, when using the "share" button on a video. With this, they can track who is sharing videos with who, and under some circumstances even how they are shared. The tracker starts with the question mark in the link you posted and the link works perfectly fine without that part.

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for pointing this out, I think it's not only youtube that does this and the solution is to edit such link before sharing them, right?

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[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-vw-hearing-20151009-story.html

Or when VW management tossed some employees under the non emissions compliant bus.

[-] staindundies@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

There aren't bad employees. Only bad processes.

[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I struggle with your statement. I've worked with inept people, but they weren't malicious. In one instance the inept person was the DBA. That one guy made the whole team's life miserable. He was a significant reason I quit a job.

I don't know what framework you could put on a DBA to make them not royalty mess up a system.

[-] labsin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But who hired him and why was he still working in that position? That's also failing processes.

[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting thought.

I was there for under a year. The person in that position before me was also there under a year. As was the person before them.

I think the manager was frustrated they couldn't get a person to stick around long enough to get trained up to be helpful. I think she couldn't fire the DBA because he was the only guy who knew how things worked.

The DBA was just one of several toxic people at that role.

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[-] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I love the video

[-] stackPeek@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Don't hate to be that guy. You're completely right

[-] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Great channel!

[-] grue@lemmy.world 129 points 1 year ago

That wasn't the design engineer's fault. It was the design engineer's fault and the QA tester's fault and management's fault.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago
[-] Kase@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I blame society for reddit.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Plus the government

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's funny to me when people act like this is some weird take but at the same time call every layer of management above the workers "leaders". If leaders aren't responsible for anything then what purpose do they serve?

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And marketing, and sales. Tons of people would have pointed this out.

Some small committee of managers would have come up with some reason to dismiss all of these complaints.

Also there’s a very simple workaround for this that doesn’t require a full recall.

And what is going on 4 ports to the right? Seems like a similar problem.

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[-] zik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guarantee management was rushing this product out the door to meet deadlines without adequate testing and without running a pilot program. That's the only way this could realistically happen.

I suspect this one falls squarely on management. But I bet they didn't take the blame.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago

Right up there with the classic Macintoshes with unshielded speakers nested right up against the hard drive and would periodically emit a tone that would reboot the computer.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

My personal favorite was the early-90s Macs that didn't have an eject button for the floppy drive, but did have a pushbutton power switch ... directly above the floppy drive. It took me weeks to stop powering off the computer every time I wanted to eject the floppy. Silly me, not picking up on the oh-so-very-intuitive practice of dragging the floppy icon over to the trash can in order to eject it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Also extra fun was if the computer was non-functional and had a floppy disk in it, since it required working software in order to eject the disk, you had to do some disassembly in order to retrieve the disk.

[-] smort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Which computer was that? I had a bunch of early apples and Macs, and they all had a little paper clip hole to manually eject the floppy

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[-] TheBlue22 94 points 1 year ago

How the actual fuck did this get through QA and production?

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

The protective boot is optional on the RJ45 CAT5/6 specification. I suspect they likely didn't test with all the different RJ45 variants dongles.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the client has enough money for Cisco hardware they can definitely afford the boogie RJ45 with Booties.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Bougie, unless they're just funky as fuck.

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

i read it exactly as it was written and now I'm imagining RJ45s in an earth wind and fire music video

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

QA budget is real low. They can only afford the ones that are bare copper stuffed into a RJ45.

If they're lucky a DIY job with no exposed pairs outside the RJ45

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How did the design make it past quality control, though? Sounds like a few balls were dropped.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

QC probably tested with normal cables, not the protective jacket ones.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

That's pretty shitty QC, but perfectly believable.

[-] kingaloo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

They're is no QC that's how.

[-] lordkuri@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Just to clarify something... they say it "resets the switch" but some people may not realize in Cisco parlance, that means factory reset, as in wipe it completely and start with a fresh config. It was WAAAY worse than just rebooting it.

When Express Setup is inadvertently invoked by the protective boot of the cable, these messages are seen in the syslog:

%SYS-7-NV_BLOCK_INIT: Initialized the geometry of nvram

%EXPRESS_SETUP-6-CONFIG_IS_RESET: The configuration is reset and the system will now reboot

%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested by NGWC led process. Reload Reason: Reload command.

%STACKMGR-1-RELOAD_REQUEST: 1 stack-mgr: Received reload request for all switches, reason Reload command

%STACKMGR-1-RELOAD: 1 stack-mgr: Reloading due to reason Reload command.

After this occurs, the device resets. The startup configuration is erased once the device enters Express Setup.

[-] PastyWaterSnake@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I almost found this out the hard way. I think on the Cisco equipment, it's something like: Hold for 2 seconds to cycle power. Hold for 5 seconds to wipe config.

Our IT guy nearly had a heart attack when, over the phone, I asked if I should press the little "Reset" on the back.

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

That couldn't have been an accident, they wanted people to suffer.

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[-] Infynis@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago

Found one of these at work one day. It's equally hilarious in person

[-] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I would love to see one of those IRL

[-] andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

He should be a dildo designer.

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

And that design engineer's name? Pagliacci

[-] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

But doctor... I am the ethernet cable.

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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

how common are those specific types of cables? The ones with that specific “protective boot”

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really common with quality premade cables.

You know, the ones used in datacenters

[-] Winter8593@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah every one of my Ethernet cables at home have that.

[-] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Almost every Ethernet cable has this, you can search for RJ-45 cables on Amazon and you will basically always see something like this.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I've seen some really cheap ones that don't have it. But the vast majority of cables like that I've seen have the protective boot.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago

Basically all of them

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe it's part of the standard so, all of them. Unless you get your cables from some cheap Chinese knockoff brand, but I don't imagine that any business would do that. Not worth the risk.

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