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[-] CarolineJohnson@sh.itjust.works 181 points 10 months ago

GTAV NES port here we come

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Damn, it must be nice if the sourcode for rdr1 leaked and somebody ported it to pc

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

In the meantime you can emulate the remastered Switch version pretty easily.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago

This is incredibly good and relevant to me and i didn't know this thank you

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[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 158 points 10 months ago

Again for anybody working on their own games or who does software. Avoid this like the plague.

[-] Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works 61 points 10 months ago

Just a quick question, why? Is it because Take2 or Rockstar will come after anyone that they think copied their code, or are there a lot of bad practices used in GTA5's code?

[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 140 points 10 months ago

Because even the possibility that you implemented somebody else’s proprietary code from memory or inspiration opens up a lot of legal issues.

And while you may win there’s no winners when you or your employer has to pay your side of legal fees. It’s best to just avoid it to make that process easier.

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 43 points 10 months ago

If they can prove it. There's only so many way to do something in code

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

They don’t have to prove anything to take you to court

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes they do. And they'd need to look at your source code to prove you copied theirs. It'd be basically impossible to prove unless you were stupid enough to have the GTA V source code on your work machine.

Peep the code on a website, and they'll have no evidence and the case will get dismissed for being frivolous. Do you think Rockstar is omniscient? People look at the source code, then leave the company for a competitor every week.

Code can't even be patented, so unless you copy some propriety process for computing physics or something, that they have a patent on, then they really have no legal standing.

This meme of "don't look at it" is very ignorant to the reality of professional software development. Our memories aren't wiped when we switch jobs and they'd have to prove you didn't pick that idea up from another job, a forum, a colleague, or even a dream.

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Do you think Rockstar is omniscient?

Seriously. There is actually zero way Rockstar would ever know even if you outright stole some of the code unless you were to admit it. And definitely not if you got some inspiration from it.

The derivative code will get compiled. What are they going to do, pick apart the machine code from every game released from now on to see if it somehow matches a chunk from GTA? And then somehow track down and prove that one of the probably dozens of employees who worked on the game looked at this leaked source code? Good luck with that.

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[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

Depends on which country you're in. I would bet if you do it in Russia there will be zero consequences.

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago

The consequence of living in Russia is you will die in occupied Ukraine.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

when you or your employer has to pay your side of legal fees

Where I live, the losing side must pay for all legal fees

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago

That is if you will have enough to keep going until you win. Having to pay a hundred grands for years may be a price to just prove you're innocent, after that you'll be refunded (sometime)

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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Again for anybody working on their own games or who does software. Avoid this like the plague.

Learning from the code and reusing the same code are two different things. It's not every day you get to see how the pros do it.

~~On a completely different subject, I'm curious about your username, could you elaborate on it?~~

Edit: I scrolled down. What is Stormlight?

Edit2: I scrolled down even more. [This says it the best].(https://lemmy.world/comment/6232601)

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[-] thrawn@lemmy.world 116 points 10 months ago

Maybe we can finally end all the hopes for that UFO thing. The people who spent years on it deserve closure, even if it was just hints towards a cancelled DLC

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 17 points 10 months ago
[-] Kiwi_Girl 21 points 10 months ago

Lots of easter eggs involving aliens + UFOs over the decade.

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[-] TheBig2023Meltdown@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Fuck that I want to see where the jetpack has been all this time

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You could buy it in GTA Online.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 66 points 10 months ago

Now that the source code is "out there" it may be possible in the future for better mod support, fingers crossed.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago

"You have been banned from Rockstar Social Club."

But seriously, fuck their jank-ass forced integration.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Could be modded to work around their shit app

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[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Banned from their social club and all local saves wiped for good measure.

[-] 000@fuck.markets 54 points 10 months ago

Are there any links floating around to download said code? The various tweets/articles seem to suggest it leaked in one Discord server, and nobody's providing a link to that Discord nor a mirror of the code.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 116 points 10 months ago

I know there's nothing original about that but God damn I hate that a chat platform somehow became used to transfer info... We're overdue for a forum Renaissance.

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Didn't we use things like irc in the past?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah and it sucked for archival purposes then and it still sucks now and forums took its place and that's still where serious people go to talk about their field. Want a custom ROM for your phone? You're going on a forum. Want to know how to repair a specific thing on a car? You're going on a forum. Want to talk about your new patchwork passion? You're going on a forum.

But somehow there's some fields (crypto, some parts of gaming...) where people have forgotten that or simply have never spent time on forums to see the difference in quality of info having an ongoing discussion makes.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Just thinking about the fields and fields of car, electric, and plumbing forums all sitting out there with broken links and dead photobucket / imgur embedded pictures....

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[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trying to compile well-documented github projects is a crap shoot half the time. iirc no one figured out how to compile even the Windows XP source code when it got leaked and it's long gone/no longer obtainable so no one can try. The chances of anything coming out of this that the average person will see are almost complete zero.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 10 months ago

My experience with large projects is that the bigger they get, the more their build systems turn into large projects in their own right. Maintaining the build for something like Windows is probably many people's full-time job, so it's no surprise a bunch of amateurs with no docs couldn't do it.

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[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago
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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 54 points 10 months ago

OpenGTA5 would be so cool. To bad Rockstar is Rockstar.

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[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

Does this mean the hackers and cheaters will only get worse from here?

[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unlikely, unless the source code for the anti-cheat system and the server have been leaked as well.

The source code for just the game isn't really going to help cheaters. Cheat makers typically don't care about the code, they'd look at either altering the game files, and/or the memory space where the game variables are stored. Having access to the source doesn't really help with that (well it may help them understand the compiled binaries a bit better, assuming they don't know them inside-out already - we're talking about a 10 year old game here).

But it may help modders for making mods and stuff. These mods may or may not be detected by the anti-cheat system though.

If Rockstar coded the game properly, the server won't allow the client to connect if any of the files have been modified, or if the anti-cheat system is spooked/borked. So assuming that's the case, any mods that may come out of this would be for offline gaming.

TL;DR: There's nothing the worry about, online gaming (against randoms) will continue to suck as usual, best to stick to offline play or playing with/against a trusted friend circle.

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If support has been discontinued for GTA 5 and it no longer receives any updates then yes that's likely.

edit: depending on what is actually included in the "full source code", of course.

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[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

But does it compile?

[-] Anarki_ 19 points 10 months ago

Here come the unbreakable cheats I guess.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

This is (one reason) why anti-cheat should be server-side.

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[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Grand Theft Video (Game)

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