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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by juergen@feddit.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[-] eighty@lemmy.one 129 points 2 years ago

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 51 points 2 years ago

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

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[-] flibbertigibbet@feddit.de 106 points 2 years ago

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[-] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 years ago

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

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[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 105 points 2 years ago

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[-] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[-] Plasma@lemmy.ml 96 points 2 years ago

FOSS is an active political statement!

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 years ago

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

This fact eludes some folks.

[-] Meganium97@beehaw.org 31 points 2 years ago

"Wait, FOSS is political?"

"Always has been."

[-] bobslaede@feddit.dk 59 points 2 years ago

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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[-] mFcGlNBcfr@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

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[-] xenago@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 years ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

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[-] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 years ago

THE LINUX KERNEL HAS A FEDIVERSE INSTANCE??????? :D

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[-] seahorse@midwest.social 53 points 2 years ago

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

[-] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

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[-] raccoon@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 years ago

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

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[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 43 points 2 years ago

Maybe because he's not "American" and comes from a country with regulations like the rest of the world, and people care when they vote to make things work.

And like most of the rest of the world, there are more than two political parties, and is not a drama show.

[-] Andreas@feddit.dk 38 points 2 years ago

He has American citizenship and lives in America, he's talking about America here. And I promise you that other countries, yes even those in the magical fantasy land of Europe, also have lots of political drama despite having more than two parties in the government (They tend to form alliances based on left/right and split into two blocks anyway).

[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know, im from Europe.
The drama is not compared to USA, we don't vote on celebrities.

In my country we even have a party for the animals and climate, so when USA still trying to vote for basic rights, we already ahead and vote for animal rights and more climate change.

[-] Andreas@feddit.dk 31 points 2 years ago

Yeah no, this "America Bad and backwards 3rd world country while us Europeans are so enlightened" circlejerk isn't constructive either. The American political system is terrible but a lot of European countries, mine included, are copying their "celebrity drama show" attitude towards politics because of extreme American cultural influence. We shouldn't deny our own problems.

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[-] RenaHersch 42 points 2 years ago

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

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[-] Maerman@beehaw.org 40 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah. I love watching this man take a stance.

[-] Hexorg@beehaw.org 37 points 2 years ago

I’m also happy to discover social.kernel.org instance!!!

[-] Puls3@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

[-] ravermeister@lemmy.rimkus.it 26 points 2 years ago

I create software by myself and disagree. First it's very political where and for whom I choose to develop software. Second, software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause. E.g. a software which only purpose is to harm people, say for controlling mass destruction weapons is in my point of view a very political software

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[-] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 37 points 2 years ago

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

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[-] Viktorian@beehaw.org 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Linus is just such a treat. Love the guy.

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[-] maddison@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago

average based Linus take.

[-] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 36 points 2 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I respect him so much.

[-] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 34 points 2 years ago

Linus delivering the well-deserved beatdown as always.

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[-] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Holy fuck, I love that guy even more now. I didn't know that was possible.

[-] thilo@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

In my experience, people who explicitly state to be apolitical or demant non politicality happen to have worldviews which only in the best of cases fall under the label controversial.

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[-] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

comrade linus 🫡🫡

but also he’s finnish, which is communist, so he’s obviously a communist smh 🤷‍♀️

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[-] mbp@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago

Linus is based as fuck as always. Level-headed and agreeable as always.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago

"Commies? In MY computer?" More likely than you think.

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[-] SolNine@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

Incredibly sensible take on all accounts in my opinion! I share all of the same opinions, though I lack the platform to be listened too haha.

[-] NotSteve_@beehaw.org 25 points 2 years ago

It makes me very happy to hear Linus say this

[-] lemme@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago

Did you know that linux kernel source code was leaked to the public? Go see for yourself how political it is!

/s

[-] matir@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago

I've never been made happier by one of his rants.

[-] FuzzyDunlop@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 years ago

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

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[-] konki@lemmy.one 24 points 2 years ago

Based Linus!

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[-] josm@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

This is one of the many reasons I look up to this man.

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