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I also reached out to them on Twitter but they directed me to this form. I followed up with them on Twitter with what happened in this screenshot but they are now ignoring me.

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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 321 points 11 months ago

When you insist on implementing your own email address validation...

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 167 points 11 months ago

I have my own domain that uses a specific 2-letter ccTLD - it's a short domain variation of my surname (think "goo.gl" for Google). I've been using it for years, for my email.

Over those years, I have discovered an astonishing number of fuckheaded organisations whose systems insist I should have an email address with a "traditional" TLD at the end.

[-] stickmanmeyhem@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago

A few years back I bought a .family domain for my wife and I to have emails at ourlastname.family That lasted a week because almost every online service wouldn’t accept it. Now we have a .org

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

Doesn't surprise me one bit. I've noticed that a lot of websites will only accept .com and a few will only accept email addresses from popular providers (Gmail, Hotmail, outlook, etc.)

My guess is that it's trying to reduce spam and fake account generation.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

My guess is that it's trying to reduce spam and fake account generation.

Thus preventing the growth of any small providers and further entrenching Microsoft, Google, Apple, and a handful of others as the only "viable" options.

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

The only useful email validation is "can I get an MX from that" and "does it understand what I'm saying in that SMTP". Anything else is someone that have too much free time.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

It's easier to Google "email regex [language]" and copy the first result from stack overflow.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 40 points 11 months ago

Definitely a timesaver. Much faster to get incorrect email validation that way then to try building it yourself.

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[-] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 31 points 11 months ago

I've encountered this because my domain has a hyphen in it. Very irritating.

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[-] reflex@kbin.social 241 points 11 months ago

but they are now ignoring me.

Hmm. Did you try giving them your email address?

[-] sacbuntchris@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, now my twitter dms are stuck in an infinite loop

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 11 months ago

Gimme your email address and I'll see what I can do

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 175 points 11 months ago

Somebody made a shitty regex.

[-] jwt@programming.dev 72 points 11 months ago

Probably, from what I can see the address in question isn't really that exotic. but an email regex that validates 100% correctly is near impossible. And then you still don't know if the email address actually exists.

I'd just take the user at their word and send an email with an activation link to the address that was supplied. If the address is invalid, the mail won't get delivered. No harm done.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Actually, one of our customers found out the hard way that there is harm in sending emails to invalid addresses. Too many kickbacks and cloud services think you're a bot. Prevented the customer from being able to send emails for 24 hours.

This is the result of them "requiring" an email for customers but entering a fake one if they didn't want to provide their email, and then trying to send out an email to everyone.

Our software has an option to disable that requirement but they didn't want to use it because they wanted their staff to remember to ask for an email address. It was not a great setup but they only had themselves to blame.

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[-] FreeFacts@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Email standard sucks anyway. By the official standard, User@email.com and user@email.com should be treated as separate users...

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[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 120 points 11 months ago
[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Exactly. After the @ they should just confirm there's at least one period. The rest is pretty much up in the air.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Which would still be technically wrong. There does not need to be a dot.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 110 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That is 100% a bot, and whoever made the bot just stuck in a custom regex to match “user@sld.tld” instead of using a standardized domain validation lib that actually handles cases like yours correctly.

Edit: the bots are redirecting you to bots are redirecting you to bots. This is not a bug. This is by design.

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[-] 48954246@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago

The best way to validate an email address is to sent it an email validation link.

Anything outside of that is a waste of effort.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

That is 100% a chatbot using a regex email validator someone wrote as a meme that the chipotle dev copied from stack overflow without context.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 105 points 11 months ago

Modern customer service is about willfully designed layers of broken system engineered specifically to frustrate the majority of people that can't regulate their emotions. It's always a series of about "12 doors" you have to cross through that are exceedingly difficult to pass through. They are designed to sap your energy with the hope that you eventually reach a boiling point, hang up, get distracted, go on with your day and never follow up out of fear of starting the same process again.

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[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago

Chipotle is telling you they don’t want your money

[-] sacbuntchris@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

I would sure like the free stuff they promised me after my past purchases

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago
[-] Syndic@feddit.de 148 points 11 months ago

Nah, it's just a old school chat bot following a predefined flow chart. And in this flowchart someone implemented an improper email check.

It's pretty much the same as if there was just a website with an email field which then complains about a non valid email which in fact is very valid. And this is pretty common, the official email definition isn't even properly followed by most mail providers (long video but pretty funny and interesting if you're interested in the topic).

[-] dan@upvote.au 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You can use symbols like [ ] . { } ~ = | $ in the local-part (bit before the @) of email addresses. They're all perfectly valid but a lot of email validators reject them. You can even use spaces as long as it's using quotation marks, like

"hello world"@example.com

A lot of validators try to do too much. Just strip spaces from the start and end, look for an @ and a ., and send an email to it to validate it. You don't really care if the email address looks valid; you just care whether it can actually receive email, so that's what you should be testing for.

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

Look, I get it, but first, what's your email address?

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[-] Ratulf@feddit.de 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If that's their standard, you can probably just edit the html to make the login button active and then sign-in.

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[-] Toes@ani.social 54 points 11 months ago

You're talking to a bot that has a crappy parser and doesn't understand what a subdomain is.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago

This is why you never attempt to validate an email address beyond requiring an @ followed by a period, and send a verification email

[-] na_th_an@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Technically you don't need a period for a valid address. "a@a" is a valid email address.

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[-] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Pepper is making you salty

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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

Have you tried giving them your email address?

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

My Ameriprise account has its own email address because the fuckers don't believe any email starting with email@ is a real email. I've called them a million times and got them to file a bug, which they did, and then closed as won't fix.

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[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Why are you keeping track of the age of your Chipotle account?

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 months ago

Because those points add up, playa.

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[-] pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

enshitification of everything intensifies

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Reply, that you'd be happy to provide your e-mail. but first, you must verify them, my having them provide an e-mail.

[-] cupcakezealot 27 points 11 months ago

sorry to answer your post ill need an email address

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[-] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, dots are NOT necessary. Actually you do not even need to supply a domain or a top level domain because mails then default to the default system which is usually localhost.

But even for routed mail there doesn't need to be a dot.

There is still valid Bang-Adressing for UUCP routed emails:

!bigsite!foovax!barbox!me

This is a valid email which basically means "send my email to bigsite, from there to foovax, then to barbox, to the user me."

And if you are in a playful mood - mix FQDN and BANG addressing...

A couple of years ago I made Hotmail crash by sending a mail to googlemail.de!hotmail.com!googlemail.com!hotmail.de!googlemail.ca!hotmail.ca!googlemail.fr!hotmail.fr!... [repeated it for 32kByte] ...!myuseraccount - their server literally crashed completely all over the world for like 15 minutes. I am so proud of myself but then it was their fault for not complying to RfC822.

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[-] Matrim@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Burritos are easy to meal prep. Make your own shit and stop paying these clowns.

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