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Motherfucker wants a police state, but one he and his buddies are totally not accountable in, fuck this geriatric wannabe dictator.
Of all the 60+ million people who intend to vote for him next year, this ridiculous rhwtoric will dissuade exactly none of them.
Meanwhile the left needs to be cajoled and won over and made to feel special just to get them to the fucking polling station.
BuT BiDeN nEeDs To EaRn My VoTe!
If we manage to avoid a fascist takeover, it will be in spite of the naive progressive idealogues who think they have the privilege to vote their conscience.
It's the political reality that you need the votes of people to your left who you hate. Get to it.
I'm already voting for Biden. You'll scream at me anyway because you don't want to treat voters you need as though you need their votes.
people to your left who you hate
I don't hate them. I said certain ones are naive (aggravatingly so, to clarify further). Too many people talk and act as if they can choose this time and keep that ability to choose next time.
If you have the sense to see what you stand to lose in this dumb FPTP system, then we are in the same boat. I understand the desire to have your elected leaders actually do something progressive, or doing something that makes you truly proud of them.
But as someone said, voting is a chess move, not a love letter.
I don’t hate them. I said certain ones are naive (aggravatingly so, to clarify further). Too many people talk and act as if they can choose this time and keep that ability to choose next time.
in the time that I've been voting... the US has only slid right. The democrats have done exceedingly little to halt that.
Rear guard delaying actions, to use the military parlance, do not win wars. Biden is moderate only in consideration that the GOP are so much further to the right as to actively embrace fascism. We cannot keep acting as we always have and expect something to magically fix itself. So now is the time to start changing how we vote and the people we send to be voted for.
it's really that simple.
It's not. We are four years too late. We need to prevent a fascist takeover, then try to make progress.
That is what they said last time, too. Complete with a promise of “one term”
Why should anyone believe you (and Biden) this time?
That is what they said last time, too. Complete with a promise of “one term”
Why should anyone believe you (and Biden) this time?
What alternative do you have? What viable plan can you enact to change the likely outcome and still avoid fascism?
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I don’t hate them.
Don't lie to me. I know how you've responded to me in the past when I didn't include that I was voting for Biden in my comment.
I understand the desire to have your elected leaders actually do something progressive, or doing something that makes you truly proud of them.
I very much doubt that.
But as someone said, voting is a chess move, not a love letter.
And the move expected of the progressives you hate is always "forfeit."
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look, you can say what you want about progressives. Just know, I think you believe you have the privilege of dictating who I vote for... which is not democracy, and you can go fuck off with trump (who, believe it or not, shares that belief.)
You want people to vote for your candidate? you should maybe not piss them off first. Besides which, right now, it's the primary and not even about Biden vs Trump. for the DNC, it's a question of which candidate is the best.
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Get better messaging, then. Screaming at them ain't gonna work.
Scream at me for pointing it out. It beats trying to get votes.
(I'm voting for Biden. "Not Trump" has convinced me. It won't convince all the voters you'll need to win, and you'd rather lose than stop punching left.)
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It's easy, the Right are fanatics doing fanatic things, the Left haven't had something to be "fanatical" about since Obama, Biden has done a great job for the most part, obviously with some disappointment here and there, no presidency is perfect, but Old man Biden just doesn't excite people, and it's only Trump keeping him running, if Don the Con would go to prison and stop running we'd be able to hopefully elect somebody under 60, and most of those Republican candidates are just as scary as Trump, and bless Chris Christie and Liz Chaney for finally committing political suicide by fighting against the fascism in their party, especially after enabling it for so long.
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I love how the man continues to give reasons to not vote for him every time his mouth opens.
And yet millions of people still want to vote for him! It's baffling!
That's because they think it'll only apply to "those other people" that they don't like. For example, with police brutality, the white, straight, Christian right thinks the police will only beat "black thugs" so it's perfectly fine in their book.
Cite your sources!
SOURCE: 01/06
Academia notwithstanding, common knowledge doesn't generally need to be cited unless it includes statistics. Asking the guy to cite his source for that statement would be like me asking you to cite a source when you claim that water is wet. It's just kind of obvious, you know?
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Guarantee Trump learned the word "indemnify" right before that speech.
Just wait until he learns about qualified immunity.
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How about the capitol police who responded to the January 6th riot? Did he even think the whole statement through?
Did he even think the whole statement through?
Come on man, you know the answer to that.
Nah, doesn't count. Seen all the twisting they've had to pull to not admit the cops weren't on their side? They were anitfa, FBI plants, whateverthefuck. The one thing the capitol police were not, were a bunch of cops doing their job. Because that don't fit the narrative.
Look at 'em go after the guy that shot Traitor Barbie through the neck. Somehow that was not a legitimate use of force against a mob trying to kill our Congresspeople?!
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PLEASE TREAD ON ME
NoOo It'S tHe DeMoCrAtS tHaT aRe ThE fAsCiStS!
/wrist
This would be setting fire to the first amendment.
Besides freedom of speech, of and from religion, the 1st recognizes our right to get redress from the government for grievance.
The government CAN NOT do whatever they want to us. That rule has been there the whole fucking time.
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Trump continued:
"And so we can distinguish our brave police who have taken up our indemnification, we've designed a new uniform for them. They will have brown shirts and ties. i like brown, you like brown, everybody loves brown. And we will want a really good name, the best name for our brave Brownshirts. I was thinking something like the Storm Division. What do you think, isn't that the greatest? I think it's the greatest."
but some pepple dont like division because it divides people. i dont agree but some say this. maybe it can be a team or a squad, like squad cars or storm squad. they can have a cool storm logo with a lightening bolt and use S S for super sexy, because thats what they are.
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Trump and his supporters are so gross.
There's a lot to unpack in this statement, but the short of it is that he's thinking like a terrorist- that the role of police is to instill fear and the thing keeping them from fulfilling it is that they fear being sued. He's telling his supporters that he wants cops to do crimes with impunity
Alright, so, real talk, this is an appeal directly to the people in police work who are in it for the authority (spoiler: too many, unfortunately), as well as to the asset owning class that depends on the police to keep them from losing their investments or worse. The message being sent is: vote for me, work for me, and you'll be free from accountability.
Criminal wants more police brutality. Idiots set to vote for Criminal come november.
Someone should explain qualified immunity to this chucklefuck. What's next, he gonna tell us he would fight a war with no rules so he would win every time?
How brain dead do you have to be to even listen to his ravings let alone follow him and think he is a leader.
It's one thing to claim police brutality isn't that big of an issue. Still wrong, but not uncommon.
It's another thing entirely to somehow be pro-police brutality.
What the fuck?
I'm not really sure what liberals are all concerned about. Don't they have any faith that they can simply "fix" this inherently fascist institution - oops, sorry, I meant to say "law enforcement" - through "reform" and more "training?"
That’ll get him a few more votes from the fence sitting fascists.
A promise to indemnify from an individual who is famous for not paying their bills... awesome!!! /s
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