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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be better to use all that obsidian to build nether portals so we can build a public transit system on the bedrock roof?

[-] new_guy@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

Now that you mentioned public transportation the US will never agree to the project

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

The US would sooner build a gigantic obsidian orb than even think of building high speed rail anywhere.

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[-] Addition@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Honestly why don't we have a nether portal transit system already. Server is how old at this point? Smh my head.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Or maybe we can feed the homeless obsidian?

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[-] Hedgehog 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Turns out it'd be a dissapointingly small sphere:

US annual defence budget = $800 billion

2% = $16 billion

Obsidian cost per kg = $5

Total kg in budget = 3.2 billion kg

Density of obsidian = 2.6 g/cm3 = 2600 kg/m3

Total volume of sphere = 3.2b/2600 = 1230769 m3

Volume of sphere = 4/3 π r^3

Radius = (3V/4π)^(1/3) = 66.48 m

The sphere would only stand at 133m tall, I propose we instead utilise the entire defence budget for a much more skyscraper like 490m tall orb

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Nobody said it had to be a solid sphere, how else would you get it to emit the ominous hum without attuning its natural frequency by carefully designing the thickness of the obsidian layer?

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 68 points 1 year ago

ignores engineering and construction cost. but we can assume that all people involved would work for free, because its a massive honour

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Obsidian Orb is really Roko's Basilisk. Allowing you to live is your payment for building it.

[-] pokemaster787@ani.social 41 points 1 year ago

Well that's assuming it's completely solid and not hollow. Hollow would probably be pretty huge, although the structural rigidity might not be great. Maybe we make a giant obsidian 3D printer and print it at like 10-15% infill.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

An obsidian 3d print is less crazy than you might think. It's essentially rapidly cooled lava.

Need something to hold the lava, then pressurize it to squeeze it through a nozzle that that has attached cooling units.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I think you just described a volcano.

[-] cram42@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Simple: bucket of lava, bucket of water, repeat.

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[-] TheKracken@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You're assuming one year of budget. I take it as 2% per year and something of that size would likely take 10+ years to build out.

[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

It would also crack instantly. Obsidian's not durable.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 year ago

yeah right. it takes a long time to mine, even with a diamond pickaxe

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Because Obsidian is really fragile. Maybe a bird hits it by accident, shatters the whole thing.

[-] Restaldt@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

What if it were egg shaped

[-] Obsidiman 20 points 1 year ago

Then the bird would probably sit on it I think

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Found the shill for Big Limestone.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

My only question is why we didn't build the orb back in the Eisenhower administration when it was most needed.

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Congress had a huge Anti-Ǒ̴̰̘̲̭̿͑̒̒͐̀̋̕͜r̷̡͍̼̹̥̻͖̤̅͑͌̋͌͗b̶̡̛͈̺̬͙̰̙͖̘͔̳̲̦̦͖̄͆̃͂͆͠ caucas after WWII. It's a miracle we got the Ǒ̴̰̘̲̭̿͑̒̒͐̀̋̕͜r̷̡͍̼̹̥̻͖̤̅͑͌̋͌͗b̶̡̛͈̺̬͙̰̙͖̘͔̳̲̦̦͖̄͆̃͂͆͠s we did.

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[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Would be a far better use of the 'defense' budget than what they're currently spending it on.

[-] Franzia 23 points 1 year ago

Thats funny because more than 2%, more like 40%, of our defense budget is going into a black orb never to be seen again and is completely unaccounted for.

[-] hibsen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I have the feeling that if we shook execs at Raytheon and Lockheed upside down for long enough a fair amount of that would fall out.

[-] SmoochyPit@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

2b2t players:

[-] 768@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Why would it hum and am I taking this too seriously?

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

That's the best part - nobody would know!

[-] farent@lemmy.scam-mail.me 8 points 1 year ago

But even so, if you were wise, you would hum as well.

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[-] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Large homogenous objects make noise. Most theories i've heard think it's a result of vibration/internal stresses.

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[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well because it comes out of the defence budget it would be a military installation and therefore the hum is classified

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I think you're not taking it seriously enough. The number of benefits from this would be immense.

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[-] psion1369@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] hessianerd@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It should go on top of Devil Mountain, it has one of the largest viewsheds in the western US.

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[-] Blackout@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Just imagine the size we could build if we used all of the defense budget. It's resonant frequency would blow the eardrums of everyone on the West Coast and kill all marine life. One day when I'm presadent...

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think "resonance frequency" means what you think it does.

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[-] flicker@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Something one might propose to build in Night Vale.

[-] acastcandream@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please do not disregard the obsidian sphere in the Night Vale public swimming pool. Make sure to give it all due attention. But not too much attention, so as to make things weird. Too little attention, unfortunately, will also bring about its ire, and we all remember what happened last time. Simply apply the recommended amount of regard to its ominous, strangely comforting hum, as it gently lulls you to sleep.

And now: the weather.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

In 2022, the defense dept spent 590billion dollars, 2% of that would be 11.8 billion dollars. While it is impossible to calculate the cost of constructing this sphere, it cost 25 billion dollars to develop the Airbus A380, and 150 Billion to complete the International space station.

The US defense budget isn't an infinite pool of money. It's 15% of the federal budget. It's dwarfed by healthcare spending (27%), and Social Security (24%). I'm not a war hawk, I try to bring this up in lefty spaces because skimming off the defense budget to solve social problems is a common, and silly belief.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget#Major_expenditure_categories

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The military budget is massive, not just because a ton of money gets wasted, but because the US has a large military presence across the entire planet. Even if most of the money goes to waste, that's still enough to outspend every other military on earth. At the same time, SS is a massive project of direct payments to seniors, Medicare is massive and made more expensive by our shitty healthcare system, and US tax rates are low compared to their peak.

Tons of companies and rich people pay negative overall taxes, even though their activities cause costly externalities to society. More than not paying their fair share, they actually pass off large bills to everyone by not paying the full costs of their business. All because US foreign policy works to spread and maintain global capitalism instead of a rule based world order like they claim, incentivizing countries to offer competitive (low) tax rates. Economic interreliance disincentivizes international wars, but it causes economic suffering that fuels nationalism which incentivizes wars, civil conflict that can turn into civil wars, and undermines democracy in favor of plutocracy. Fucking utopian capitalists.

[-] uriel238 6 points 1 year ago

Note also absent from the defense spending budget is actual necessary gear for the troopers, such as proper helmets that protect from IED concussions and proper treatment from the DVA for TBI, of which we have hundreds of thousands of cases thanks to twenty years of War on Terror.

Recruits are entirely expendable, according to how our budgets are allocated, which is one of the primary points of counter-recruitment. Roll a D20 for every year of your term, and on a critical fumble, you either die or, way more likely, sustain a life-ruining wound. And those are the ones they count rather than PTSD cases they send back into the fray, the rape cases they make disappear or the troopers who wash out because a senior officer has a personality conflict with them and deigns to personally make their lives a living hell until they break.

In my own work with vets, all these stories have been commonplace, not just isolated incidents.

So yeah, if we're not going to treat our troops like human beings worthy of life, we can assume defense dollars are going to the cigars that Lockheed-Martin lobbyists hand out to our Senators to celebrate new contracts.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

And eventually someone will spray graffiti really high up somehow

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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah, ominous hum!

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