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U.S. vehicle fuel efficiency standards administered by NHTSA have encouraged automakers to build larger vehicles. The bigger the vehicle, the lower the fuel efficiency target it has to meet.

That's some monkeys paw type of shit law

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah preverse incentives. When doing the wrong thing makes the most sense for the individual. Happens often in tragedy of the commons situations.

If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die. If you find an endangered animal on your land it is better for you to kill it. If you have a child with someone who makes minimum wage it is better for you to divorce.

Maybe it is too much to expect but for things like this, when public policy experts came up with a standard instead of just inheriting a situation, that they plan for these things in advance. Spend a few moments and look at where the incentives are before just hammering a new policy into place.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die

Uh maybe in China. I would not say that in the United States. Manslaughter is a serious charge.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You aren't factoring in civil suits. Someone dead, their family can only get so much. Someone crippled can just keep going after you and might have to as they go into greater and greater levels of debt. What would you do if suddenly your income went down to about 14k USD a year and with each passing day the chances of you returning to work diminished, wouldn't you be desperate enough to try to win some money from the person who did this to you? Wouldn't you go along with any shyster lawyer who promised results?

[-] Windshear@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Recently bought a new diesel silverado 3500 for my ranch. It's enormous, I'm glad I didn't get the dually option as it's hard enough to drive in the city. Most of its job however is pulling trailers around.

That said, on highway if I drive the speed limit and take it easy I can get 9L/100km. It's unreal that such a huge truck will get almost the same economy as our KIA SUV.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's Regulatory Capture. Laws made by and for the industry they're supposed to regulate.

[-] Evilschnuff@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago
[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

big thing smash more than small thing, news at 11

[-] SYLOH@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

The US public has repeatedly demonstrated that it would rather die than make even minor adjustments in their lives. So don't expect anything to get done.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 13 points 1 year ago

Smaller cars? Over my dead body! Literally.

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have been thinking about getting some "Child Killer" stickers to start slapping on trucks that are particularly unsafe and huge. I don't get why in neighborhoods that in all kinds of other ways frowns upon putting kids at risk (no driving fast for example) dumbass men are allowed to own MASSIVE trucks that raise the risk of running a child over by a huge amount and no one shames them.

Time to start shaming these people more.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but "ma freedom"

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

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[-] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I have a small truck, and its A pillar has blocked my view of pedestrians more than once. I have to move my head to check. With big vehicles, I imagine there's even more of a problem.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I ran over my friend in high school while driving a Ford Ranger. She is 5'1 but still, if her hands hadn't flopped up in the air I might've killed her. Worst part is, I'd just dropped her off.

Always need to be careful driving a big vehicle. Learned that the hard way.

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Its actually the opposite, the bigger and boxy-er the vehicle, the bigger the windows and the less obstructions from bodywork. The added height also allows you to see much further away and over obstructions like lines of cars, stopped traffic, landscaping, etc. .

[-] r0bi@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

I miss pop up headlights

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

next they’re going to try to tell me tanks are more deadly than four door sedans. does anybody buy this stuff?

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I read that as "Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US presidents, study shows", and was like: how did they do that study?

[-] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Easy, just drive them in Mexico or Canada and they’d be fine.

[-] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lmao, I am sorry you are being down voted. This is funny

[-] Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

These flat fronted high up ones have made their way to Europe how are they legal

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's how they are designed. I've sat in a number of them that have ugly blind spots. Back left is a big problem on a lot of them.

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've responded to a bunch of "car vs pedestrian" calls. With adults a low speed hit is usually some minor injuries like lower legs, arms, etc. If they're hit hard sometimes their head hits the windshield. The victim ends up on top of the hood and rolls off the side or up and over the car.

If it's a truck their injuries are more serious. Hip, rib, shoulder/arm, spine, and head injuries. They get hit high and knocked into the ground -- and sometimes partially or completely run over.

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, it is.

Big cars are heavier, taller, and have larger blind spots. The first two make them deadlier in an accident, the last makes it easier to run someone over in a crosswalk, parking lot or driveway.

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