You don't have to wait you can just go look at them whenever you want.

https://hexbear.net/post/1070892

They won't be showing up here, this is a lemmy.world community and they are defederated afaik.

They're never going to be able to argue Stalin didn't send firing squads to murder the Spanish revolutionaries. After seeing this meme they'd be crazy to try.

Are the hexbears in the room with you right now?

It's almost like the main problem with both authoritarian communism and authoritarian capitalism might be the authoritarianism.

It would be 100% with capitalist as well.

As DarthBueller@lemmy.world less succinctly put it. Capitalism is barely a few hundred years old. It's barely existed a fraction of human history. It's barely older than many of the original socialist ideals. Let alone all of history. Markets and currency predate capitalism and socialism by millennia. And neither has claim to them. Despite both making use of them.

That said fuck leninists. Actual communists are pretty chill though. But leninists and capitalists are a threat to everyone. Including themselves.

Just as a true socialist country has never existed, a true capitalist country has never existed. Economies are always mixed.

Liberal countries are the only ones capable of providing a safe and prosperous society for all. It doesn't mean all liberal societies are like that, but liberalism is the only one that can create and maintain one.

So capitalism has existed since "about all of history"? About as dumb a take as folks insisting that the Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on for thousands of years.

Hey now, don’t go lumping “eat the rich” in with these crazies. I can hate tankies and hate our growing wealth inequalities

Well, the people "being chill and getting along" (i.e. just keeping the status quo going) is nowadays supporting a genocide,so...

Like why can’t people just be chill and get along

I think the hurtling toward climate crises has a lot of people desperate for governments to actually do something to help assuage it, not make it worse.

Well put! I love this place and have had some good discussions but I've also seen a lot of teenage political craziness and had that "oh, I'm talking to a lunatic or a child" sensation more often than I'd have liked to.

There are still plenty of members of the Leninist tankie cult left - look at the positions of most Communist Parties in Europe. To make things worse, I think most of them don't even realize that the Soviet Union is gone and that China became a cyberpunkish corporatocracy that puts the worst western country to shame.